I went to CNN.com today to see if there was anything on the march. All I found was the march mentioned above by kelsey. I wonder if any of the major networks will pick it up. Any clue how many hundreds showed up?
Just wondering
Dragon
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I went to CNN.com today to see if there was anything on the march. All I found was the march mentioned above by kelsey. I wonder if any of the major networks will pick it up. Any clue how many hundreds showed up?
Just wondering
Dragon
may you all have peace!
as many of you know, i was directed by my lord to warn against evil action against the organization... and those in it.
so, after reading silentlambs invitation (i apologize for not doing so earlier), and the following comments by comforter (who, i think may have confused with "comf", who is not the same person, please note...), i am compelled by the spirit of my father that is in me, holy spirit, by means of christ, to respond to comforter in this separate thread.
Are you trying to say you are anointed!
i thought the idea was to help the victims.
will silent lambs change wt policy?
could happen.
I believe the strongest tool of any cause is the law. Change the laws and you have power. A affective movement would involve looking into all states and laws to see what ones need to be addressed, and target those. Nothing irritates me more, then people thinking this is only a problem in the JW religion. It is a mess in all religion. I am not a Witness anymore, so I look outside the organization to help others.
Is there ever enough support for victims of abuse?
My thought
Dragon
Edited by - kenpodragon on 27 September 2002 3:20:26
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for witnesses who are currently going to the meetings, or anyone really for that matter, who may have friends still going i have a question:.
what are the active witnesses saying about the molesting issue that has come quite apparent lately?
From what I heard from sources in the meetings ... not me!!!! They are not saying anything, basically nothing.
who of you are writers out there?.
since being a child, people have responded positively to my writing.
i've written countless items of poetry, but never let them out into the public domain.
I consider myself a writer to some degree. I have been paid to write several things. I was never formally trained, with a degree or anything. I just write from the heart. Which is what we should all do.
Take Care
Dragon
before you read the following.
i would like to explain that i in no way hold the jehovah's witness beliefs, so please read the complete thought to fully understand my point.
i looked at all these people that were elders, pioneers, and strong witnesses and figured i did not measure up.
Thank you all for your kind words and added insights. There is so much to the exit from the JW past, and I enjoy learning all the different perspectives, and this board is wonderful for that. Ex-jw's are some of the most insightful people I have ever met.
Thumbs up to a better life.
My thought
Dragon
Edited by - kenpodragon on 26 September 2002 16:37:21
before you read the following.
i would like to explain that i in no way hold the jehovah's witness beliefs, so please read the complete thought to fully understand my point.
i looked at all these people that were elders, pioneers, and strong witnesses and figured i did not measure up.
Before you read the following. I would like to explain that I in no way hold the Jehovah's Witness beliefs, so please read the complete thought to fully understand my point. I spent so much of my life wondering what would happen if Armageddon came tomorrow, would I make it. I looked at all these people that were elders, Pioneers, and strong Witnesses and figured I did not measure up. I always thought, if I could only spend more time in service, write better talks, perhaps work at Bethel and even donate more money to the society. I would be equal to these people and would make it into the New World we always talked about. When I left the religion, and started to learn about the universe and about how little works really mattered I came to a realization and visualization of what a Armageddon would really be like. I take you into a dream ... The sky grew dark and the smell of death filled the air. Screams of pain could be heard in the distance as the judgment of life approached them. The fire was burning everywhere, and people were running in a complete panic, as they wondered what was happening. I stood there thinking that this must be it, I blew it. Armageddon was here and I was about to die, the Witnesses must have been right and here comes the end I never thought would be possible. The radio station was playing something about weird events world wide, and people dying everywhere and then it went silent and I realized the announcer too at been taken by the wrath of God. I set at the edge of my yard and cried a few tears thinking, why would God be this way? Why would God have had a religion with so much hate represent him? I put my head in my hands and set there wondering when my end would come, and how much pain would it involve. The smell of smoke and burning flesh was everywhere, and it was making me ill. I decided I would at least walk to the Kingdom Hall and see what was happening there. I expected to see people singing and all gloating with a "we told you so attitude." I started to walk down the street and stood across the street from the Kingdom Hall. It seemed quiet enough, with people standing around looking as scared as me. I figure they were worried that some of them would drop dead soon, and I figured they were now questioning every moment they ever had in this life. Suddenly I stood quiet, as I felt them approach. It was as if I felt the energy of something not of this world behind me, and even though they did not breath, there was a breath to their presence. I turned and I saw what looked like shadows, or silhouettes and I thought "well at least at the end I got to see the face of my killers." I hit the ground, not to beg, but to die saying sorry. Suddenly a voice spoke and said, "what are you doing?" It came from the figures. I looked up and said, "I figured you were here to take me out of this world to be destroyed." The figures did not speak for what seemed like a hour, but then they said, "what have you done to deserve to die?" Which caught me off guard, I always wondered my whole like "what have I done to deserve to live" and never once thought about the other question. I stood there silent and caught off guard. I then thought of something, "I have done nothing, I loved everyone including myself and I always wanted to do what was best ... I spent my life helping others from my heart and I never harmed anyone that did not deserve it." .... I paused a minute and spoke again "I loved life, I loved every minute and everyone who spent it with me ... I have no regrets." I felt strong at that moment and figured, if this was the end ... I felt good about me. The figures took a long moment to speak again, "well you found the answer to life then, you need to know why you deserve to live and not think about how much you need to die." Then he paused again, and I noticed more energy creatures were with them. They all spoke loud to me at this point, "could you do us a favor though?" I thought, "well sure" these creatures were letting me live when I thought life was over and the judgment I feared was upon me. I spoke up with a unusual strength for the moment I was in, "what ever you want!" They spoke again, even louder, "could you move, we are trying to take aim." So I stepped down the street and suddenly the Kingdom Hall went up in flames and all the people were all destroyed. The elders who I thought were so holy at one moment in my past, the Pioneers who seemed so righteous in all their works, and all those families that said I was never doing good enough. They were now all gone, nothing but ash and flames where the Kingdom Hall once stood. As I walked home, I did not notice that many other churches were laying in ash as well. I just noticed that I had a smile on my face, for I no longer feared a Armageddon or angels, or even a God. I did not deserve to die!!!! I deserved to live!!! So I went home and felt happy, that I had a tomorrow. I had the right to see myself there, and I had the right to want to be there and I did not have to feel guilt for those feelings. All those who would have told me I was wrong, were now ashes on the street corner ... blowing in the flames and wind of destruction. So I ask all of you, "do you deserve to die, or do you deserve to live?" Which question did you ask yourself today? My thought Dragon
Edited by - kenpodragon on 26 September 2002 15:47:48
i have followed the silentlambs issue for awhile now.
i saw the special on dateline, and read a few things on newspapers and online links.
i have a question though and wonder if someone could answer it for me, as this was asked to me by someone "outside of the organization" and i did not know.. .
Hampton
Your assuming again!!!
Dragon
i have followed the silentlambs issue for awhile now.
i saw the special on dateline, and read a few things on newspapers and online links.
i have a question though and wonder if someone could answer it for me, as this was asked to me by someone "outside of the organization" and i did not know.. .
Good night too, and thanks for ending this on a positive.
Dragon
i have followed the silentlambs issue for awhile now.
i saw the special on dateline, and read a few things on newspapers and online links.
i have a question though and wonder if someone could answer it for me, as this was asked to me by someone "outside of the organization" and i did not know.. .
outnfree
I commend you highly for the a great thought out answer that hit the points I wanted. Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is what I wanted to hear.
Take Care
Dragon