PS. Silent Lambs IS an organization of which you have put your trust in. And rightly so.
I read the above to mean something different then.
Sorry
Dragon
first off, let me express that bill bowen would not know me from any stranger on the street.
i have never spoken with him, or have i ever corresponded with him.
the only information that i have of him is what i have read of him on this forum and on silentlambs.org.
PS. Silent Lambs IS an organization of which you have put your trust in. And rightly so.
I read the above to mean something different then.
Sorry
Dragon
first off, let me express that bill bowen would not know me from any stranger on the street.
i have never spoken with him, or have i ever corresponded with him.
the only information that i have of him is what i have read of him on this forum and on silentlambs.org.
PG
Sorry to call you on this, but I was a Jw and I remember one very key point.
"Do not put your trust in man!"
Last I checked, Bill Bowen was not claiming to be a prophet or anointed. (Titles that are a little odd in modern society anyway). Lean on the side of caution with who you put trust in.
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Dragon
Edited by - kenpodragon on 7 October 2002 16:55:16
first off, let me express that bill bowen would not know me from any stranger on the street.
i have never spoken with him, or have i ever corresponded with him.
the only information that i have of him is what i have read of him on this forum and on silentlambs.org.
God is the law
We all have the right to our own views. I respect your right.
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Dragon
when i was a witness, we would sometimes get people who were disfellowshiped or disassociated that protested the assemblies or kingdom hall.
perhaps there are a few who have done this on this board.
i remember a few comments made by people in the congregation when they saw these people.
There is a difference in "wishing evil" on people for a difference of opinion, and wanting justice for a terrible action done against you or your country.
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Dragon
first off, let me express that bill bowen would not know me from any stranger on the street.
i have never spoken with him, or have i ever corresponded with him.
the only information that i have of him is what i have read of him on this forum and on silentlambs.org.
Personally, I think the law had more to do with it. Then again, I am not a Christian and view God differently. Either way, by working the system properly. The results helped the little guy to have a voice that mattered.
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Dragon
first off, let me express that bill bowen would not know me from any stranger on the street.
i have never spoken with him, or have i ever corresponded with him.
the only information that i have of him is what i have read of him on this forum and on silentlambs.org.
Have you seen "Erin Brovovich(sp)?" It would help you to see that one person, or the small man can make a difference. If they use the law to their advantage, and work the system properly. PG&E was a huge company, with billions on there side. Yet, they lost.
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Dragon
Edited by - kenpodragon on 7 October 2002 16:7:36
first off, let me express that bill bowen would not know me from any stranger on the street.
i have never spoken with him, or have i ever corresponded with him.
the only information that i have of him is what i have read of him on this forum and on silentlambs.org.
I do not think that the success of a organization is based on God's backing. Otherwise, why would organization like the "KKK" exist today? The success of a organization is based on the passion of the leader, and the application of knowledge on how to gain success. Thus, even the best of programs have failed when the proper procedures were not followed.
My added thought
Dragon
first off, let me express that bill bowen would not know me from any stranger on the street.
i have never spoken with him, or have i ever corresponded with him.
the only information that i have of him is what i have read of him on this forum and on silentlambs.org.
It is the WORLD that SL needs to impress!
I agree! The world will have to take notice and ask for change, either through laws or restrictions. Impressing us Ex-Jw is to easy. Impressing and gaining support from people who know nothing, that is a challenge.
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Dragon
when i was a witness, we would sometimes get people who were disfellowshiped or disassociated that protested the assemblies or kingdom hall.
perhaps there are a few who have done this on this board.
i remember a few comments made by people in the congregation when they saw these people.
When I was a Witness, we would sometimes get people who were disfellowshiped or disassociated that protested the assemblies or Kingdom Hall. Perhaps there are a few who have done this on this board. I remember a few comments made by people in the congregation when they saw these people. Things like, "Those people are just plain evil", "I would not want to be them at Armageddon", or "Jehovah is going to take extra pleasure taking them out." All of which seemed to tell me that Witnesses had a hidden hope somewhere, that those who spoke against Witnesses would get a good "Whacking" by Jehovah in the end of this system, or in this life. Well I was in this one congregation for many years, and in that time we had several people speak against the religion. Some did it with news programs and others did it with pamphlets. So local Witnesses would think bad of these people, and make these statements of how they hoped Jehovah would take them out. Then "wham" a young woman in our hall was killed in a car accident. Then "wham" a elder was stricken with cancer and died. Then "wham" a young man is killed by his babysitter. Yet we go to the next assembly and see these people protesting, and organizing movements against the Jehovah's Witnesses. I ask something to myself then, in all these "hopes" for Jehovah to strike these people down. What happened, "Did he miss and take out his own people?" For there were the same faces from last year, the former elder from the neighboring congregation and the man I used to Pioneer with. All holding signs that said things to protest the organizations ways, and bring a open minded thought to the current followers. Yet what do you hear said again, "Those people are just plain evil", "I would not want to be them at Armageddon", or "Jehovah is going to take extra pleasure taking them out." Even adding a little laughter to what they saw as foolishness, as they saw none of these people having any affect. Then another year goes by and again, a young woman is raped on the way home from field service, a old man is beaten by his son, and this young child is hit and killed by a man drinking and driving. Yet again the same apostates march the line. What happened, "Did he miss and take out his own people, again?" Well I see it differently now. I think there is something inherently evil in wishing harm on another. I see the practice of hoping someone suffers because you do not agree with them, as a hateful comment. In addition, to want only harm to someone is inviting harm on to yourself. Why do I say that? Well if you claim to be about love, and then at the same time you can think of so many hateful things about another, you are only faking love and not actually being love. So in being so hateful and negative, your words of condemnation on another is nothing more then that "words" and your love you claim to show to others, is nothing more then that "show." So am I saying that Jehovah really aimed at people and missed the target? "NO!" I am saying that if we see it that way, we don't understand love in the first place, and the right it gives us to life's freedom. We are making ourselves the target, because when you put yourself as a pedestal up to be admired, people notice all the things that happen to you more. So basically, had I not heard so many hateful things about those apostates protesting. With people hoping Jehovah would strike them down. I would have never had time to think about how little sense that made, when more hardship was happening to the accusers than the accused. My thought
so many times when i was in field service, i would run across people who wanted to argue scripture.
some were pretty good, they knew their stuff and we would spend hours going over this point and that point.
it was some times, kind of educational on both sides, but more often then not ... it was a waste of two hours.
Kenpo = Kenpo Karate ... Yes
I have a black belt in Kenpo Karate. I normally just like the name "Dragon" on boards, but that was taken so I did kenpodragon instead, and it just stuck. Some people think my name is "ken" :)
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Dragon