Crystal
I hope you did not take my question as a insult, it was more of just one of those "I wonder" questions.
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kenpodragon
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It takes to much effort to hate
by kenpodragon inin my life i have learned that in order to truly hate someone or even to hate something.
i have to spend so much time carrying around all the files of memories that give me the reason to fill that way.
i have to think about the person, the thing or the place.
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I voted today for the first time
by Gopher inyes -- i shared in the mid-term american elections.
and my polling place was a big old lutheran church -- yes, right there where babylon the great plays the whore to the politicians!!
lol .
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kenpodragon
I vote in every election and enjoy it myself. I am glad you took this step, it is a nice way of stepping into the real world and accepting our responsiblity as a citizen of the planet.
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It takes to much effort to hate
by kenpodragon inin my life i have learned that in order to truly hate someone or even to hate something.
i have to spend so much time carrying around all the files of memories that give me the reason to fill that way.
i have to think about the person, the thing or the place.
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kenpodragon
Crystal,
Your post brings up a question for me. Was Jesus setting a example, that said "if others live by standards different then us, or do things that are not in our set rules. That we have a right to hate them?" I ask this, as I think the Christian church has shown they do this in history. Your comments enforced that feeling in me, as they quoted an example in a way I had not thought of. What I wonder though, is hate in a man, leading him to love or blocking it's entrance into his life.
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Edited by - kenpodragon on 5 November 2002 17:16:34
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It takes to much effort to hate
by kenpodragon inin my life i have learned that in order to truly hate someone or even to hate something.
i have to spend so much time carrying around all the files of memories that give me the reason to fill that way.
i have to think about the person, the thing or the place.
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kenpodragon
I guess it comes down to just not liking the extreme of the word hate. I might dislike something, or not favor a certain thing. I just do not like to hate things. When I think hate. I see visions of "Nazi death camps", "War", and "Racism." All of which are the vision of hate I can not let drive my inner self. I just decided I do not want to hold such things high on my mental shelf.
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It takes to much effort to hate
by kenpodragon inin my life i have learned that in order to truly hate someone or even to hate something.
i have to spend so much time carrying around all the files of memories that give me the reason to fill that way.
i have to think about the person, the thing or the place.
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kenpodragon
In my life I have learned that in order to truly hate someone or even to hate something. I have to spend so much time carrying around all the files of memories that give me the reason to fill that way. I have to think about the person, the thing or the place. I have to envision the past or the reason that caused the hate and I have to basically allow those thoughts to direct my day.
Yet when I love someone, like my wife, or something or some place. I only have to see it and the feelings just fall into place out of thin air. Like they were just part of me and not something I had to drag along to remind me of the feelings that surrounded my day.
Love seems to flow from the world, from the sky down to the ground naturally. Hate seems to be the things we put in between that feels out of place. So perhaps I am lazy, and I do not want the extra work. It just seems that it takes to much effort to hate, so I am going to just drop it in the trash on the way out and not bring them along in my day.
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Not all goals are just down the road.
by kenpodragon ini was fishing along a mountain stream and working my way up into a canyon of northern california.
the stream was running pretty good, and the plant life was starting to grow over the water in some places.
forming a natural bridge of life from one side to the other.
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kenpodragon
I was fishing along a mountain stream and working my way up into a canyon of Northern California. The stream was running pretty good, and the plant life was starting to grow over the water in some places. Forming a natural bridge of life from one side to the other. Ahead of me was a log that had rolled down the steep side and rested across the stream so that I could cross. I stepped onto the log and looked up ahead to see what was coming, my friend who was with me was down below using a fly in a area of water that looked pretty good. As I looked ahead it seemed like their was a glimpse of something in the trees ahead. There seemed to be some extra mist and even a occasional rainbow forming in the air above. I figured it must be a waterfall that we would be coming up to soon.
My friend caught up to me and we moved along the creek bed further, trying are best not to get our feet wet. Which normally involved jumping from one rock to the next, and then waiting a second to see if the leap took away our balance. We had done pretty good so far, but because of the fact that the creek sometimes hides it's slippery rocks. We both were walking with one wet foot, and one dry one.
As we approached the area I was seeing the mist. The bushes had gotten so thick, and the trees that had fallen had blocked the way pretty good. We could hear the water fall now, even though it was still muffled a bit through the extreme amount of plants and debris that separated us. Call it, "no wanting to give up" or "just plain stubbornness", but we wanted to see this waterfall we kept hearing just above.
We broke down are fishing rods into smaller pieces, made sure are back packs were all zipped up with nothing hanging out, and started bush whacking our way thought this thick green barrier that separated us from our goal. As we did, I hit a stick that dug into my leg and ripped open the skin with a lot of pain. Ouch! I knew I was going to feel that in the morning. My friend was behind me cussing at a branch I snapped back on him and hit his face. We continued on though, knowing that there was something we wanted to see just up ahead. Finally we hit a clearing and ahead were two boulders we needed to climb and then we would be there. With all of this work, we were thinking this better we worth it or at least be a source for some big fish.
I climbed onto the rock and looked over the crest, and in front of my eyes was something I never expected. It seemed that this creek was not just coming down the canyon. It was also flowing off of the canyon walls from two sides. Two smaller creeks were meeting the one we were fishing and making two twin water falls. It was amazing watching these waterfalls cascading into a pool down below, breaking into a mist of two rainbows that were alive with color and beauty. We felt like two explorers to a new world, knowing that this was sitting here without our knowledge all along. We were at least 15 miles from the nearest home and on a creek few people knew of, yet here was this site that the world would have loved to know about. Yet it was ours, and ours alone to see and enjoy for all that it offered.
We walked up to the base pool and in the water were huge trout swimming around, yet for some reason we were just happy to leave them alone in their little secluded home. Besides we had blood flowing down our legs and needed to tend to the wounds we had to get, to get to this place. It seemed like only a few minutes of sitting at this location. We ate lunch, swam in the pool and even skipped a few rocks. Yet those few minutes were actually hours and soon we had to make our way back home. Yet, the waterfall would always run in our memories. A place we had to work hard to find, but knew the value in our efforts once we got there.
To me that moment, many years ago taught a great lesson to me about life. In my exit from the Witnesses, and I am sure others will relate too. There was often the site of others living a nice life of freedom. Yet for us to reach that point, we had to take ourselves through moments of difficulty and even receive some personal damage along the way. We pushed and we pushed, and only we could understand the reason for our efforts.
In the end though, we reached the beautiful waterfalls of our life. Of course, we might have had a few scars from the journey to this point. Yet no one could take away the fact that we were now where we wanted to be. In moment of beauty that is ours and ours alone. Not something we needed a photo of, for our minds knew the value of this moment enough to see the need to record every detail.
So as you make your journeys in this life and look up ahead to the things that you want to achieve. Remember always, that the destination might be wonderful and yet the journey might be more difficult then we imagined. In the end though, the beauty of the end result will be even more then you expected and the journey will just make the final moment all the more worth it. For you will reach your goals and personal beauty in life, through your own effort and your own desires and often what you expected, will pale in comparison to what you really get. For you might have expected to see a small ripple of water, and end up with a site you remember your whole life.
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WHAT IS DEJA VU??
by Mary in.
i think everyone has had an experience with deja vu; i know i have and it's really freaky when it happens.
i'll be standing there talking to someone and that feeling comes over me that i've done this before; i've had the exact same conversation with this person and i can even predict what they're going to say.. with someone i know, that's one thing; having this experience with someone i've never met before is really bizarre.. i've heard all kinds of theorys as to what deja vu is: a "delay" in the brain, reincarnation, someone in the future has changed the past and we sometimes 'repeat' things, it's all in your head, it's satan.......... i'd be interested to hear what sort of experiences you've had with deja vu and what you think it is........ .
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kenpodragon
DJ
Now I am freaked out ... I thought I read your message before, only with a different name. LOL
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WHAT IS DEJA VU??
by Mary in.
i think everyone has had an experience with deja vu; i know i have and it's really freaky when it happens.
i'll be standing there talking to someone and that feeling comes over me that i've done this before; i've had the exact same conversation with this person and i can even predict what they're going to say.. with someone i know, that's one thing; having this experience with someone i've never met before is really bizarre.. i've heard all kinds of theorys as to what deja vu is: a "delay" in the brain, reincarnation, someone in the future has changed the past and we sometimes 'repeat' things, it's all in your head, it's satan.......... i'd be interested to hear what sort of experiences you've had with deja vu and what you think it is........ .
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kenpodragon
I think Deja Vu can have many meanings.
Sixth Sense ; in that we come into a room we might have envisioned for a reason prior to entrance. Thus we perhaps take special note of the place, and look for the meanings.
Reincarnation ; there are some who say we have certain mental triggers in our existence that links us to past lives. I have heard of people fearing water, then doing past-life research and learning they drowned. Some things from this life might link up. All the senses can trigger this, a smell, something you see, something you touch or even something you hear.
Subconscious Mind ; you can not ignore the fact that we store a lot of information in our minds that we do not have out all the time. Sometimes we forget we have things in there and then we run across something that triggers that memory and the mind opens the flood gates on a past thought.
Perhaps one of these explain it, or they all do. It is fun to consider at least.
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Edited by - kenpodragon on 4 November 2002 18:2:38
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Is God Intelligent?
by SpannerintheWorks insurely it takes more power and intelligence to create the world as it is and by a process that we describe as "evolution" , rather than by a single creation event?.
spanner.
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kenpodragon
I do think we evolve as a species and as a spiritual being. I agree with that thought.
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Life on other planets?
by freedom96 inas jw's, we were taught that there is no way that there is life anywhere but here on earth.. i personally never bought into that completely.
there are billions and billions of solar systems out there.
i do believe that absolutely there is life on other planets.
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kenpodragon
I have no problem with accepting that there could be intelligent life out in the universe, I do have a hard time accepting that we have intelligent life on this planet at times though.
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