when you left the jw's, did you remain a christian?
the reason i ask, is that when i left the witnesses i explored all kinds of concept and religions and even attended a few churches.
i soon found that i was attracted to new age and pagan believes.
by pagan, do you mean you worship different god & goddesses for different things? Rain god, sun god, earth goddess, etc. Or do you mean you do not worship any god? That is something else.
Pagan, as defined by the JW's ... anything that is not a Christian concept. My believes are very much into eastern philosophy! I don't title myself though, as I am anti-organized religion and hate titles.
when you left the jw's, did you remain a christian?
the reason i ask, is that when i left the witnesses i explored all kinds of concept and religions and even attended a few churches.
i soon found that i was attracted to new age and pagan believes.
Although I have friends who are Wiccan and enjoy their company, I am not a Wiccan. I do not worship any god or goddess. I consider god to not be a individual, but rather the energy of life that exist in all and between all. I do not title myself, but I do study and accept a lot of the thoughts from Huna and the Silva Ultramind. I do use Tarot, but I consider Ouji Boards to be a pour example of the spirit contact as it often attract lower energies. I use meditation on a daily basis and am very much into using the energies of the universe in my life; chi, ki and vril.
I do have Christian friends and I have a great time talking to them. I feel all religion, no matter how you title it taps into the same source and that is why all religions have had divine moments and clarity. I believe there is some good in all religions, as long as they really believe what they say, and actually love and not hate. Many cults, of off shots of the major religions have lost this and only teach hate when they say they are only right and all others are wrong.
when you left the jw's, did you remain a christian?
the reason i ask, is that when i left the witnesses i explored all kinds of concept and religions and even attended a few churches.
i soon found that i was attracted to new age and pagan believes.
When you left the JW's, did you remain a Christian? The reason I ask, is that when I left the Witnesses I explored all kinds of concept and religions and even attended a few churches. I soon found that I was attracted to New Age and Pagan believes. I no longer even feel Christ walked the earth, and I got rid of all of my Bibles except for the King James version that my Non-JW grandmother gave me. When I see Bible quotes, I never read them, as I think the Bible can be twisted to mean anything. In fact, I even know a few scriptures that will make you believe in aliens. I have met many Pagan Ex-Witnesses online and found that they all seem very at peace. I think for the most part this comes from less conflict in our former beliefs. Some times when I mention this online, I have been accused of being evil. I find that concept of rebuttal interesting, but not productive.
1. you think the girl in the ankle length dress, neck high sweater, and long sleeve shirt is showing to much skin.. 2. you think it is smart to leave school early to spend your days not working for a living, but driving around handing out magazines.. 3. you think most disney movies are questionable for your kids to watch.. 4. you think smurfs are demons.. 5. you call kids "youths" all the time.. 6. you spent your families vacation at a district convention.. 7. you spent you first date, and last date with your spouse before marrying with a chaperon.
and you were both in your 30's and virgins.. 8. listening to barry manillow is considered rocking it.. 9. you once washed your childs mouth out with soap for saying "dang" or "darn".
10. your idea of family fun is playing bible trivia and reading the song book.. 11. if someone in your church once counseled you for wearing perfume.. 12. you consider a death in the family as a preaching opportunity.. 13. you think 7 billion people are wrong and 6 million are right.. 14. you base a good job on whether or not it works with your church schedule.. 15. if you are at this site and reading all these post and saying ... these are all lies.
1. You think the girl in the ankle length dress, neck high sweater, and long sleeve shirt is showing to much skin.
2. You think it is smart to leave school early to spend your days not working for a living, but driving around handing out magazines.
3. You think most Disney movies are questionable for your kids to watch.
4. You think Smurfs are demons.
5. You call kids "youths" all the time.
6. You spent your families vacation at a district convention.
7. You spent you first date, and last date with your spouse before marrying with a chaperon. And you were both in your 30's and virgins.
8. Listening to Barry Manillow is considered rocking it.
9. You once washed your childs mouth out with soap for saying "dang" or "darn"
10. Your idea of family fun is playing Bible Trivia and reading the song book.
11. If someone in your church once counseled you for wearing perfume.
12. You consider a death in the family as a preaching opportunity.
13. You think 7 billion people are wrong and 6 million are right.
14. You base a good job on whether or not it works with your church schedule.
15. If you are at this site and reading all these post and saying ... these are all lies.
i never knew water had a flavor.
it's a warm day and you are working hard to get some yard work done.
the temperature raises above 100 and the sun is over head and you mouth seems to have turned to death valley.
It just seemed out of the blue, and I have had people attack me before when I step onto the boards. I just wanted to make sure that was not happening, as I do not know people here and did not want to be tangling with someone that everyone knows (but me) is only trying to argue.
Take Care
does anyone really care what active witnesses think of them?
i ask, because on many of the ex-witness boards i see a lot of mention of what people think others say behind their back.
personally, i hope the witnesses think i am the devil himself and fear me upon sight of me.
think you should be careful that you don't give the impression that your choices are better than the choices of others here, or on other discussion boards
Message boards are about growth. If we do not take the time to say what ever we think, then we are nothing more then drones. Free thinking, can sometimes hurt others now and then the scar my strengthen them later. Basically, all should say what they think ... as the other is the way the Witnesses preached.
Face it, Sex sales. Keep in mind though, that the idea of a sexy outfit in the JW world ... Would be a ankle length dress, turtle neck shirt and long sleeve .... OWE all that skin showing.
i never knew water had a flavor.
it's a warm day and you are working hard to get some yard work done.
the temperature raises above 100 and the sun is over head and you mouth seems to have turned to death valley.
I have to ask though. How does a post that has nothing to do about death or reincarnation turn to that topic? My experience, from being on many boards, has shown me that when people do this they are either.
1. Having a very hard time with a topic in their own mind and thus bringing it up a lot to find a settled moment.
2. They enjoy having verbal battles that lead to them explaining how they feel on matters, while they never read any of the other persons responses. Every board has at least one, some are lucky enough to have two of these.
Either way, I never enjoy talking about my beliefs unless I was the one who brought them up in the first place. The reason is, the other manner is a tool the Witnesses used. Which was when a feather would fly by and suddenly they were talking about God and creation. This was a sure fired "friendship ender", as the people always felt attacked even if it was only in the person showing their beliefs when the other did not care to.
I will put these items on the table though. I am not a Christian, and I do not own one bible. Quotations from the bible are skipped by me, and I never look up and quotations. I do not feel the bible is the word of God, as I do not think god is one person that sits on a thrown. I feel that it is a good history book, and many religions have one or two. I do not hold to any religion! I am more in tune to listening to what I want, and care less of what others want for me. I do belief in God, just not in the way the Witnesses taught ... God to me is the energy of life that exist in all in around all life.
So that is my beliefs, and they bring me peace. I hope I never meet one person in my entire life who feels the same as me. I want all the people I know to feel different, that way the picture that is my life can have many colors. So I never convert, as I have nothing to convert people too, and I never argue with people if I sense that is what they want. It's my path in this life to live the way I want, and these are my choices.
Just thought I would let people know how I feel now, who have not known me from other boards.
i never knew water had a flavor.
it's a warm day and you are working hard to get some yard work done.
the temperature raises above 100 and the sun is over head and you mouth seems to have turned to death valley.
Do you believe in reincarnation? If so, what reasons and proofs do you have in order to believe. If not, then please help me to understand the above quote.
Yes, I do belief in reincarnation. I believe that the physical is the recycling of matter and the spiritual is the recycling of energy. I base this on many sources, but my days of trying to convert others to my thinking ended when I left the Witnesses. Now I hold my beliefs personal and let others find their own path.
does anyone really care what active witnesses think of them?
i ask, because on many of the ex-witness boards i see a lot of mention of what people think others say behind their back.
personally, i hope the witnesses think i am the devil himself and fear me upon sight of me.
Kist
I actually have a black belt in Kenpo Karate, but I have trained in Kung Fu as well. I do no why the Witnesses hate it though. They quote the scriptures about Jesus saying, "If they slap one cheek, turn and let them slap the other" and the one "The man loving violence, Jehovah does hate." I don't expect that to me word for word, but the idea is the same.
I do practice mediation on a daily basis, actually more then once per day. I learned some of this from Karate, and more from new age seminars and books. I think mediation and martial arts are the main back bone to my life. One clears my mind of thoughts and allows me to concentrate on what I need to, and the other builds my confidence that was so lacking as a Witnesses.
Of course, they both would be hated by Witnesses.
