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  Why Are They Called "Pioneers"?

  by Ding in

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  does anyone know how the wts came up with the term "pioneer" and the related "auxiliary" and "special" pioneer terms?.

  it's not in the bible and it seems to come from us expansionist history....

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  Do'pioneers' in your area do the 'pioneer walk' vist 1 house, come out , stand under shady tree, drink of water, heck this lids on tight, taking 5 minutes to get off, what scripture that last fellow mention, in Rev. right ,lot of pages between Genesis and Rev. see this never noticed this scripture in Genesis, oh look its been 20 mins better do 'the walk ' to the next house, 3 steps forward ,2 steps back,4 steps......can't say I blame them . FF
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  Why Are They Called "Pioneers"?

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anyone know how the wts came up with the term "pioneer" and the related "auxiliary" and "special" pioneer terms?.

  it's not in the bible and it seems to come from us expansionist history....

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  where do they justify the set [pioneer etc ] hours comming from. FF
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  Rutherford Conspriracy

  by fadinfast in

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  having read up on rutherford, but certainly not all that is out there by any means,[ so if it has been discussed point me in the right direction] one thought keeps coming to mind.

  when he brought himself to the 'top of the ladder' as ray franz brought out he had a chronological nightmare, 'he was faced with two choices: rectifying by.

  frank admission of error, or trying to justify the predictions of his.

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  Grandma, thanks, I have read a fair bit there, and will certainly keep doing so,

  clarity, thanks also, link does'nt work, but I will find it. FF
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  I just can't do anymore right now....

  by GrandmaJones in

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  i am constantly reading, studying, looking up more stuff on the internet, perusing old threads, keeping up with "new light" on jwn.

  i am in the middle of "in search of christian freedom" (having just finished steve's cultmind control book) and i am finding it so argumentive doctrinally that my head is spinning.

  i found myself this evening with my laptop next to my desktop (all the better to reference back and forth, m'dear) the wt library cd-rom open to "the modern history of jehovah's witnesses" in twenty four parts, with a plethera of "rainbow" books open for easy reference while i was listening to an old fred franz discourse at dodgers stadium!!!!!!!!!!!!.

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  Hi Grandma, I wrote an answer for here but dropped in the wrong place, here http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/202220/1/Most-mags-placed FF
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  Rutherford Conspriracy

  by fadinfast in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  having read up on rutherford, but certainly not all that is out there by any means,[ so if it has been discussed point me in the right direction] one thought keeps coming to mind.

  when he brought himself to the 'top of the ladder' as ray franz brought out he had a chronological nightmare, 'he was faced with two choices: rectifying by.

  frank admission of error, or trying to justify the predictions of his.

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  fadinfast

  Having read up on Rutherford, but certainly not all that is out there by any means,[ so if it has been discussed point me in the right direction] one thought keeps coming to mind. When he brought himself to the 'top of the ladder' as Ray Franz brought out he had a Chronological nightmare, 'he was faced with two choices: rectifying by

  frank admission of error, or trying to justify the predictions of his

  Predecessor. He chose the course of justification'.[or in plain English BS his way out]

  My question is having the legal knowledge, seeing how and where the war was going, having the ability to write and stir people up, could he have purposely set out to put himself [and others?]in jail "a martyr for the cause" so to speak. He may have had to include a few close confidants, but knowing how he liked to keep everyone as mushrooms, properly not.

  Also I once read where someone said that Rutherford said he spoke in Jehovah's name, at a public talk at Madison Square Park, and the talk was written up in a watchtower, if true, could someone pleas provide me the reference.

  I'll leave with this thought, probably been used before but I haven't spotted it . We all know he was an alcoholic. So I thought these words had a humorous ring to them:

  Three days later, on Friday, September 5, which was called Co-Laborers' Day, Brother Rutherford further stated: "In sober moments a Christian naturally asks himself, Why am I on the earth? And the answer of necessity must be, The Lord has graciously made me his ambassador to bear the divine message of reconciliation to the world, and my privilege and duty is to announce that message."proclaimers ch7 p77

  Says two things to me 1: He would never have known why he was on earth.

  2: If one needed to have 'sober moments' for 'The Lord' to do what is described there, then by his own admissions he was never chosen. FF
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-14-10 WT Study (UNITY2)

  by blondie in

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  the unity of the christian congregation.

  the glory by means of the congregation.. eph.

  5. why can gods angels serve in unity, but why.

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  I know one so called 'annoited' who is so down on women I call it the 'Jezebell complex' pray he dont get there or God Help all you sisters,LOL FF
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  One more category of JW

  by Giordano in

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  the jws need one more category of witness............ a jehovah's bystander!

  they're like the witnesses, only they dont want or have to get involved.

  i know it's an oxymoron but think of all the problems that would solve.. .

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  hers the I i missed sorry FF
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  One more category of JW

  by Giordano in

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  the jws need one more category of witness............ a jehovah's bystander!

  they're like the witnesses, only they dont want or have to get involved.

  i know it's an oxymoron but think of all the problems that would solve.. .

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  Viola, basicly just copy from url then paste into paste from word.FF
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  One more category of JW

  by Giordano in

  1. watchtower
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  the jws need one more category of witness............ a jehovah's bystander!

  they're like the witnesses, only they dont want or have to get involved.

  i know it's an oxymoron but think of all the problems that would solve.. .

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  fadinfast

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/181261/1/Types-of-JWs-by-A-Lee-Lucas hope its the right one FF
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  Most mags placed.

  by fadinfast in

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  mention was made round her the other day of mag placement [was it a complete waste of time etc] and this story came to mind that i thought you may enjoy, could subtitle it "the real use for mags" me and my mate decided to go do some 'outback' witnessing, the word got around , and out comes all them unplaced mags, like a mud slide threatening to overwhelm/overload you.

  a full days drive, check in at local pub.

  up very late next morning, i say to maca,'lets go see old jimmy he's good to start with.

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  Hi Grandma Jones, glad you enjoyed,after reading your 'I just cant do any more right now' I, and I think most others have, or have had the same problem. As for myself I have had a good 'ball and chain' to slow me down 'she who must be obeyed' bans me from the computer for awhile, but she has to sleep and go shopping sometimes! Think I'll get me a satellite laptop and slip down the waterhole with six pack, na just kiddin I actualy enjoy 'time out'. Out here the Aborigines have a great way of copping they 'go Walkabout' although it was basically a spiritual thing [and still is] moderns use it when they get stressed or things are to much. Basically it means walk out of the camp and enjoy your own thoughts and come back refreshed ,no matter how long it takes 1hour,1day. So have a 'glass of wine by the water hole day' and chill, and no 'satellite laptop! Come back with this attitude" Illegitimi non carborundum"DON'T LET THE BASTARDS GRIND YOU DOWN!!" I'll run a few stories here from time to time, I'll leave with this one for now.

  Macca and I where on our way to see old Charley, a lovely old aboriginal man who lived 30 mins out of town, lived by a river that had some great fishing, so he was always 'last port of call' so that would make it around 10 oclock, give or take ohh 5 minutes, nothing like routine in the 'Truth', when it comes to fishing.

  We arrived 'I'll go Mac' [although Charley didn't mind people, he liked one approaching first] 'Yer right' I got out and approached the shed 'Charley you old bugger you home' nope, so I started walked down the track, about 100 meters from the car now, when up ahead I see a cloud of dust, 1sec,2secs register, Pack of Dooogs, turn, RUN. May have been 100 meters, looked like a flamin mile back, I did a dash an Olympian would have been envious of, barrelled into the car,Macca's doubled over with laughter,"oh very funny" "Sorry it just looked so funny," "glad its your car they are about to scratch to death" "Get out of it you Mongrel Dogs" screamed Macca totally inevectuatly. Before this could happen, out of nowhere [as only aboriginals can do] old Charley appeared ,and between laughter managed to get off a whistle that pulled the dogs up short. I wound down the window "that's not funny Charley, them mongrels could have savaged me" "Naaaaa boss thems my aunties dogs, she trains them for kids, they would lick you to death, she gone down the track for a time so's they's here, come on I'll put the billy on." We sat and had a cuppa and spun a few yarns, "hey boss gotta tell you what happened to the last box of magazines you left, I had to go see my uncle who lives between them 2 big rivers, you know xxxx and xxxx, so's I muster up a mob from town and we go [he had a dual cab work truck] you know the big rain we had, it started way up the river, by the time she rains here the causeways [no bridges just concrete causeways] they's waaay under, stuck there for nearly 3 weeks, food no worries, plenty kangaroos, barra [fish] in the creeks and good bush tucker around, and plenty firewood, but one thing boss no toilet paper, my cousin yells, hey Charley you got a box of them Jehova's magazines we could use, behind the seat, No I say's we cant do that them is holy books [Charley had a deep love for the God he saw around him in the bush, but could never understand why he would get himself trapped in a book, but as he said, if he needs to do it for 'you whities' then he knows what he's doing] I thinks, and I say's this is what we'll do, I'll talk to the big fella, I said to Him, if you don't want us to use them please drop some from the sky [he was of course referring to a helicopter drop] well about an hour later airplane pretty high up drops a chute, and she's coming down on target coming down coming down and the wind carries it just across the creek, so I turns to them and tells them 'he tried' so this is what we will do, we'll cut that name Jehovah out wherever we find it, Then we can use it." And that's what they did for most of the box. Wish old Macca was still around so I could show him this write up on what we called 'dog day morning' and also point out that I didn't call myself FnFast for nothing. FF