When they cover the daily text in the morning (Which I believe they've stopped doing) they would ask questions and comment on it before reading the daily text.
Could that be what you're thinking of?
Posts by Lore
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22Do they read the paragraph before or after asking the questions?
by james_woods ini used to be the wt study conductor back in the 1970s.
the way i remember it, we asked the question first, got several comments, and then read the paragraph.
if we were running long on the hour time, i would sometimes just read the last few paragraphs.. something i read here made me think that this had been reveresed - i.e.
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Oct 15, 2011 WT on jw.org now
by Gayle ini could only scan quickly,,but some could point out other things there:.
(quote) we can create opportunities.
to rejoice with them by occasionally inviting.
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Lore
What's with the GIGANTIC prechecked checkboxes in the first study article?
I hate to sound nitpicky but they seem a bit tacky. . . like the main points of the article aren't already blatantly obvious from the 2nd grade reading level and the pre-meeting-study, and the read-and-repeat Q&A style of the meeting.
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Signs From My Brother
by DarioKehl insigns: (really amped up in the last year).
claims to "spend hours on the internet.".
recently became an ms after 3 yrs of reproof.. after a few months, stepped down and relocated.. expresses no interest in becoming ms again, calling me saying "count me in for paintball again.".
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Each time we play, more and more of out worldly friends and relatives come along (with beer) and the JW players seem to be totally fine with it!
'Needs of the Circuit' talk incomming.
They'll probably call it a 'murder simulation game'
Sounds like fun!
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Signs From My Brother
by DarioKehl insigns: (really amped up in the last year).
claims to "spend hours on the internet.".
recently became an ms after 3 yrs of reproof.. after a few months, stepped down and relocated.. expresses no interest in becoming ms again, calling me saying "count me in for paintball again.".
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Lore
Relayed his flood doubts to me in confidence.
Shared with me that he "disturbed" a long-time JW friend by expressing doubts about the flood account.Excellent. Odds are if he has the tiniest doubt about the flood and he spends a lot of time on the internet I'm SURE he's googled whatever he was curious about.
Lets say he wondered how a tree could be 5000 years old if the flood happened 4.5k years ago. If he googled THAT question then it would also lead him sites explaining how the animals wouldn't have fit, the coral reefs would have died, the geology record would prove it wrong etc.
So if he is revealing to you that he he has doubts, he's probably hoping you'll research it as well.
That's what I did, I had already done loads of research about the flood months before I mentioned to ANYONE that I had concerns about it. And I only brought it up because I was hoping they'd research it as well.
Turned down an invitation to go camping with me and some friends in April because he was auxillary pioneering and had to "get the rest of the hours in."
Maybe he doesn't really like camping. I hate camping and I'd gladly use field service as an excuse to get out of it.
Should I take a proactive step and open up to him about my doubts or is there too much risk involved?
Nope. It sounds VERY promising, but it's not really worth the risk. You'd finally have a buddy to share your misery with. But that's it.
You'd be able to work together to accomplish. . . nothing. Even as a team you wouldn't be able to do anything.
Y ou'll probably end up going out to get a few beers, talk about your problems, work each other up into a frenzy and agree that you guys just have to DO SOMETHING. Then you'd either do something, and regret it. Or not do something, and regret it.
In my opinion, if at all possible, be a loner. Teammates aren't very useful when there's nothing to work towards.
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Chemtrails, Seeing is believing.
by pedal power inbefore i begin, i want you to know i understand the difference between chemtrails and contrails, so lets leave those discussions behind, chemtrails exist.. what is the purpose of chemtrails ?
if it was to artificially create clouds, why come to edinburgh ?
for any of you who are unaware, 90% of the time its cloudy and rainy, so creating cloud cover, is a joke.
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Lore
Before I begin, I want you to know I understand the difference between chemtrails and contrails, so lets leave those discussions behind, Chemtrails exist.
Well that's great, but here's my dilemma: Everyone else on the planet is pretty much incapable of detecting chemicals in the sky miles above them.
So even if YOU are personally capable of differentiating between wator vapor and mysterious chemicals by sight alone, most people don't have this ability and so I'm afraid I can't just take your word for it and pretend it's not possible you are simply mistaken.
Should I get an NBC suit, some fullers earth, and a respirator ?
I see no downside to this plan.
And the best part is, when people see you walking down the street dressed like Boba Fett then THEY will start to think there is some kind of consipiracy going on.
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Chemtrails, Seeing is believing.
by pedal power inbefore i begin, i want you to know i understand the difference between chemtrails and contrails, so lets leave those discussions behind, chemtrails exist.. what is the purpose of chemtrails ?
if it was to artificially create clouds, why come to edinburgh ?
for any of you who are unaware, 90% of the time its cloudy and rainy, so creating cloud cover, is a joke.
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Lore
cantleave: you might be right about the PRIMARY rainbow, but the SECONDARY rainbow: flying unicorns all the way.
Cantleave, Bohm is right. It's more likely to be a pagasus than a unicorn but they have been known to create rainbows.
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She shows too much cleavage. What should I say to her?
by Iamallcool ini met a gorgeous lady yesterday and she shows too much cleavage.
i see her facebook page, all of her pictures has cleavage in them, i would not want to date her because she shows too much all the time.
i am tempted to tell her to cover up her cleavage, she might not like me telling her that.
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Lore
When I first clicked this thread I was of the opinion that unless she is your wife, daughter or POSSIBLY sister, it's none of your business and you really have no reason to mention it.
But then I saw this.
"Getting desperate, huh, Babe??"
Zid wins the thread.
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The magazines didn't used to be so dumb and boring
by Lore inhere's an excerpt from this weeks watchtower study in 1950: .
*** w50 6/15 p. 180 a victory dedicated to jehovahs honor ***.
the strategy, and the attack.
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Lore
For comparison here is the first few paragraphs of THIS weeks study:
PERHAPS the first time you saw Jehovah’s name was when it was shown to you at Psalm 83:18. You may have been surprised to read those words: “That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah, you alone are the Most High over all the earth.” Since then, you no doubt have used this same scripture to help others come to know our loving God, Jehovah.—Rom.10:12, 13.
2 Although it is important for people to know Jehovah’s name, such knowledge in itself is not enough. Notice how the psalmist highlights yet another truth essential to our salvation when he says: “You alone are the Most High over all the earth.” Yes, Jehovah is the most important Person in the whole universe. As the Creator of all things, he has the right to expect full submission from all his creatures. (Rev. 4:11) For good reason, then, we need to ask ourselves, ‘Who is the most important person in my life?’ It is vital that we carefully analyze our answer to that question!
The Issue in the Garden of Eden
3 The seriousness of this question can be clearly seen in the events that developed back in the garden of Eden. There the rebellious angel who later became known as Satan the Devil enticed the first woman, Eve, to put her own desires ahead of Jehovah’s command not to eat the fruit of a certain tree. (Gen. 2:17; 2 Cor. 11:3) She succumbed to this enticement and thereby showed a lack of respect for Jehovah’s sovereignty. Eve did not acknowledge Jehovah as the most important Person in her life. But how was Satan able to deceive Eve?Truly BORING
It wouldn't make a difference if Orson Wells read the paragraphs and Vincent Price jumped in to read all parts where Satan talks. There is NO way to read that in a non boring way.
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The magazines didn't used to be so dumb and boring
by Lore inhere's an excerpt from this weeks watchtower study in 1950: .
*** w50 6/15 p. 180 a victory dedicated to jehovahs honor ***.
the strategy, and the attack.
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Here's an excerpt from this weeks watchtower study in 1950:
*** w50 6/15 p. 180 A Victory Dedicated to Jehovah’s Honor ***
I dunno if you guys would agree, but that's actually kind of well-written and interesting, like listening to a story. I can imagine the WT reader actually being able to read it with emphasis and passion. Notice how they didn't feel the need to cram a repeatable moral in every paragraph that they could ask a question about later. Compare that to this weeks article, every other sentence is a question directed at the reader like an episode of Blue's Clues which tries to put things as simply as possible so that all the 2 year olds can answer every question with one-word.
THE STRATEGY, AND THE ATTACK
5 Up! Arise! Prepare for battle! Gideon returns from his nighttime reconnoitering and rouses his little band to fighting zeal. He divides his force into three companies of one hundred each, and deploys them into the night’s blackness for action. Down from the heights of Mount Gilboa they file, a silent line of figures that finally encircles the sleeping Midianite camp that sprawls in the valley of Jezreel, at the foot of the hill of Moreh to the north. Well armed, these three hundred? No, not militarily speaking; they would draw scornful laughter and ridicule from haughty militarists. Each one had a trumpet, a pitcher, and a torch within the pitcher. Each one knew the instructions, had his assigned place in the thin line that stretched round about the camp, and looked to Gideon’s location for the cue. At the given signal each one blew mightily upon his trumpet, broke his pitcher, held aloft the firebrand thus uncovered, and shouted, “The sword of Jehovah and of Gideon!”—Judg. 7:1, 15-20, Am. Stan. Ver.
6 A scene of wildest confusion and terror broke loose in the Midianite host. The night’s silence shattered by the blasts of three hundred trumpets, its stillness broken by the shouts from three hundred throats, its darkness pierced by the eerie flames from three hundred torches, and added to this the frightened stampeding of Midianite livestock, the unnerved terror of the invaders is understandable. The shouts and blasts rolled across the camp to strike the sides of Moreh, only to bounce back over the confused scene and bump into Mount Gilboa’s bluff, and as the noise was magnified and the echoes answered back, it seemed that the very hills awoke and took up the cry against Midian. The reverberating echoes converged upon the enemy, and as they stumbled from their tents sleep-filled eyes widened in startled fright at the leaping flames that highlighted shadowy shapes and fired superstitious imaginations. Believing the trumpets were of a numerous army that had penetrated their camp, the Midianites supposed their enemies were among them and turned their swords against every man they met, against their own numbers. They were confused and rattled, and rushed about wildly, and added to the din by their own cries, till they could straighten out their aimless dashing and take flight toward the fords of Jordan and their own land. The war of nerves had shattered their control and they flew at one another before finally breaking into headlong flight. The fear that was catching spread like a plague, and terror gave wings to the rout. (Deut. 20:8) No strategem was ever better laid, better executed, or more completely successful. Judges 7:20-22 reads:
7 “The three companies blew the trumpets, and brake the pitchers, and held the torches in their left hands, and the trumpets in their right hands wherewith to blow; and they cried, The sword of Jehovah and of Gideon. And they stood every man in his place round about the camp; and all the host ran; and they shouted, and put them to flight. And they blew the three hundred trumpets, and Jehovah set every man’s sword against his fellow, and against all the host; and the host fled.”—Am. Stan. Ver. -
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Tying Your Shoes With Modesty and Soundness of Mind
by Franklin Massey inthe lack of intellectually stimulating material within the jw religion right now is astounding.
there is clearly a lack of spiritually dense material and a surplus of ridiculous, childish babble.
the regular "food" that jws are being fed is illustratively equivalent to pureed baby food.
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Lore
We had two 10 minute talks explaining the new way of getting magazines to place door to door.
The first one read the letter from the society explaining it.
Then they explained it again paraphrasing the letter.
Then the repeated it with different scenarios.
Then they assured everyone that nobody will be punishing them if they accidentally take too many.
Then they told everyone not to pay attention to how many magazines other people are taking because it's not a big deal.
Then they paraphrased the letter again.
And finally they assured everyone that if they were still confused they could ask an elder after the meeting.Apparently there was still some confusion because they repeated the part 2 weeks later in the Local Needs.
So they spent two 10 minute talks to explain what boiled down too:
Each week you grab the magazines you think you are going to place this week off the counter.
Put any extras back for other people to use at the end of the week.
So yeah. . . They think the witnesses are idiots, and that's mostly because a lot of them ARE IDIOTS!
