Lore

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  Discussion with my dad about 607 in a week,,,,help?

  by stillstuckcruz in

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  13 years ago

  so to make a long story short, my family found out about my "apostacy"(i couldn't take it anymore) and now everything is all in shambles.

  they still feel there is "hope" for me.

  (ha!).

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  Lore 13 years ago

  It all depends on your goal.

  Is it to convince him that 607 is wrong?

  Or is it to make him understand why you think 607 is wrong?

  They may seem like the same thing, but they're not.

  If it's just to show him why you think it's wrong, then YOU get to lay the ground rules. You can tell him what kind of evidence you'll accept and what kind you won't accept. You can say: "I don't trust the watchtower not to lie, so I would accept their articles as a source."

  On the other hand, if your goal is to convince him that 607 is wrong, then you need to follow HIS rules, you need to ask your dad: "What kind of evidence will you accept? Will you assume that every non watchtower source is lying if they disagree with 607? Or will you accept archaeological evidence if it's different from the what the watchtower says?" in other words: "What would it take to convince you that the watchtower is wrong about this?" and if the answer is: "Nothing could possibly convince me" then you're off the hook and can spend the rest of the evening talking about something more fun, like toenail clippings for example.

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  Here's a "press release" written by an anonymous source that can be sent to the media about the thinner magazines

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  13 years ago

  march 26, 2012. news item:.

  jehovah's witnesses to reduce pages in watchtower & awake!

  magazines.

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  Lore 13 years ago

  So now through careful negotiation with satan, the internet has been handed back to God.

  That was pretty funny.

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  States of hypnosis - getting people to face facts

  by Qcmbr in

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  13 years ago

  was looking at hypnosis ( always wondered why it works so well on some people - not because i want to convince everyone i meet to be my slaves - honestly ;) ) and i read something that stopped me in my tracks.

  the articles author stated that most of the time we are in a state of hypnosis which is no more than our automated systems taking over from our conscious ones for example, when we drive home and realise we didn't think too hard about driving we just 'arrive home' we are in a mild hypnotic state; when we get immersed in a movie and lose our sense of where we are we are in a suggestible world where we potentially get moved by what we see etc.

  all these are indicators of our conscious self focusing in such a way that our actual behaviours are handed over to our sub-conscious brain which is also our long term learning process.

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  Blatant Contradiction in new Watchtower

  by The Searcher in

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  13 years ago

  the june 15th 2012 study watchtower, paragraph 6 on page 26 has this statement; "the gospel writer luke .

  traced all things from the start with accuracy, to write them in logical order.

  (luke 1:3) gods spirit ensured that human .

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  Lore 13 years ago

  Matthew does not mention Judas leaving at all.

  Mark does not mention Judas leaving at all.

  Luke does not mention Judas leaving at all, and in fact states that he was there AFTER the passing of the emblems.

  John DOES mention Judas leaving early, but does not say when it took place in relation to the passing of the emblems.

  Also it's worth mentioning that, according to JW dates, John was written a good 30 years after the other 3 gospels were completed.

  So until then, nobody would have even known that Judas left at all. Let alone before the meal.

  Also the word used for 'logical'. If it's not Chronological then what the heck is it? How is it more logical to put Judas at the table after the passing of the emblems if it's important that he was NOT there?

  Looking at other translations it sure seems like he's talking about putting them in order based on TIME, not some other unspecified definition of 'logical'. The greek word used was: Kathexes seems to be talking about chronological order to me, if not, I'm honestly pretty confused about what he could have meant.

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  JW World Record - Youngest Baptism

  by soiledumpling in

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  13 years ago

  please let me know the age of the youngest child getting baptised.. i knew of a girl of 11 years.. .

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  Lore 13 years ago

  I was 9

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  Did you know it's impossible to eat anything bigger than your head?

  by wha happened? in

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  13 years ago

  anyone?.

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  Lore 13 years ago

  I think it's more of a guideline than an actual rule.

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  Did you know it's impossible to eat anything bigger than your head?

  by wha happened? in

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  13 years ago

  anyone?.

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  Lore 13 years ago

  Ummmm, in what way?

  Bigger as in geometric size? - Cotton Candy. Busted.

  Bigger as in more massive? - A human head weighs 10 lbs. A 2.5" Cube of gold weighs 10lbs. I'm pretty sure you could force yourself to swallow it if needed.

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  Barack 2012

  by Celestial in

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  13 years ago

  obama will be reelected.

  i won't vote but i'll bet my hands on it.

  who in their right mind would want a right-wing gop candidate?

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  Lore 13 years ago

  Ummmm no, but he did sign the law that made it legal.

  Heh, fair point.

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  Barack 2012

  by Celestial in

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  13 years ago

  obama will be reelected.

  i won't vote but i'll bet my hands on it.

  who in their right mind would want a right-wing gop candidate?

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  Lore 13 years ago

  Obama is the president who introduced the ability of the goverment to execute American citizens without due process. And yet he's still a less horrible option than the remaining 2012 candidates.

  This is gonna suck.

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  Possibility of a Major Methane Release Triggered by Melting Arctic Ice Constitutes a "Planetary Emergency".

  by sizemik in

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  13 years ago

  climate 'tech fixes' urged for arctic methane.

  by richard black - environment correspondent, bbc news.

  an eminent uk engineer is suggesting building cloud-whitening towers in the faroe islands as a "technical fix" for warming across the arctic.. scientists told uk mps this week that the possibility of a major methane release triggered by melting arctic ice constitutes a "planetary emergency".. the arctic could be sea-ice free each september within a few years.. wave energy pioneer stephen salter has shown that pumping seawater sprays into the atmosphere could cool the planet.. the edinburgh university academic has previously suggested whitening clouds using specially-built ships.. at a meeting in westminster organised by the arctic methane emergency group (ameg), prof salter told mps that the situation in the arctic was so serious that ships might take too long.. "i don't think there's time to do ships for the arctic now," he said.. "we'd need a bit of land, in clean air and the right distance north... where you can cool water flowing into the arctic.".

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  Lore 13 years ago

  up to you which, if any, of the above you chose to engage with on JWD....

  6 - It is happening, I caused it, and there's nothing you can do to stop me.

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