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  How Does It Feel Knowing That You Were Once A Member Of A Cult???

  by minimus in

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  does it bother you?

  the more i think about it---the angrier i get.

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  kilroy2

  First of all I feel very angry that I was mislead and told to sit down and shut up.

  The thing that makes me the most angry and frustrated is the fact that when I decided to leave my wifes parents and my grandfather, want nothing to do with us.

  Are we ax murders? rapists? child molesters? [all the child molestors are at the hall] NO we are not. We work hard to creat a good life for ourselves.But are made to feel like we are doing something wrong. This makes me so pissed off, I can't begin to express.

  When you do nothing wrong and yet are made to feel like you are gets my blood boiling. I have 3 brothers and my grandfather, [I call him bill as he is not my grandfather any longer.] will not contact any of us. One of my brothers went to the hall for a while to be part of the click, he had some friends at the hall. When he came to realise that they would only be friends as long as he kissed ass to bor. hook he could not do the dance any longer.

  And when he quit his friends evaporated like water in the desert.

  So did bill. My other brother has gotten married and has twins on the way and he has not called or asked about them.

  The only consoloution I have is that just before my mother died bill gave all his money to my mom and when she passed on my dad was the benificary of the money. not a ton but 100k, now that my mom has passed bill has tried to get the funds back and we all have stood strong and said bascily piss off. He left as soon as my mom died and told the family he did not want anything to do with them.

  but the lack of a family that really cares about you,that will stand by you even when you do stupid things, I really miss.

  Believe it or not my wifes parents will not call her at home, they will call her once in a while at work [every 6 months or so] and ask to talk. yep you heard me right, at work. so she will call at 30 min before meeting night and start to talk. she says if they are not curtious of her time she will not be of theirs. I am so proud.

  It is not even that I like these people, In fact I do not. but it makes me so mad that some old bastards in brooklyn who never even saw a virgina before can destroy a family they know nothing of and care less about.

  So I say that I will continue to put up posters against the dubbers[I know this pisses them off to the enth degree] and will tell all that have a hearing ear about the horrers of the socity. We will fight them on the beaches, we will fight them in the hedge rows, we will never surrender.
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  FDS Sends Convention Delegates Packin'

  by ezekiel3 in

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  jehovah's witness across north america are being sternly counseled at this week's service meeting that they should pack lunches during the 2004 dictrict convention instead of leaving the site to eat elsewere or return with food.

  in a letter read during the announcements, members are told this is a "serious problem".

  reportedly jws have been banned from some convention locations because the venues want concession stand business if jws insist on bringing carry-out meals into the facility.

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  kilroy2

  You know what works for me?

  I just dont go!

  I dont have to wonder if the temps at the silver dome will kill me.

  I dont have to fight the traffic,the lines of pushy dubbers at the food lines at local business.

  How about the 30k people push to the exit doors during lunch or going home.

  The pushy people 3inches from you as you try to get out.

  the attendants that are full of power cauz some one gave tham a paper tag that says attend.

  my old partner daryl kunde used to get off more than sex cauz he was asked to work in security,what a joke what they call security was to send the donations in one car but send 2 fake runners alone so you would have to pick which car had the thousands of cash. still a good time to hit all three and get some good cash. they dont carry guns or fight.

  when people go to the assam. it is like going to the dentist and asking him to just hurt me. done do anything I need just make me as uncomfortable as possible for 8 hours. wow. I will skip it.

  you know I used to cringe thrusday nights when my wife used to come home from work and ask me are you going to get ready to go.

  the best time of thrusday night was the last song cauz I knew I was going home.

  I cant express enough how bad I hated meetings. looking back on it now to go back I would rather have my balls pulled off. and I am not joking.

  why some stab themselves all over with many pains. I dont know
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  Most hated WT publication

  by Nosferatu in

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  what is the wt publication you hated the most?

  why did you hate it?

  for me, it was probably that damn pink great teacher book.

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  kilroy2

  For me it is the "Your Will Be Done On Earth"

  Pages 321 to 323 talk about how the earth is getting bombarded 

  with cosmic rays and god could use these to change mens minds

  and make them do his will at the end times.

  other passages talk about how when the bible talk about the 

  heavens being shaken was in 51 when the russians launched sputnic

  and the heavens were shaken with the intrusion of man

  and lots of other clap-trap, it reads like a bad georg orwell book
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  Iquick builds

  by kilroy2 in

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  all the projects i have been with there is always the to many cheifs and no indians routine.

  you have people who know nothing trying to take charge.

  and opinions like assholes they all got em.. i would not step foot on kh soil if i knew there was a million in gold there for the taking.

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  all the projects I have been with there is always the to many cheifs and no indians routine. you have people who know nothing trying to take charge. and opinions like assholes they all got em.

  I would not step foot on kh soil if I knew there was a million in gold there for the taking. there is no good that can come from going to associate with them. they will only drag you down and it will take longer for you to heal once you do leave

  the dubbers a sinking fast these days. when I read about prince going out in service and the elders in minisota saying that it was a great day for all when he got baptized.

  as much as I hate the whole dobberdom. they would have never stood for this crap. prince going out in service in a limo with 4 body guards.

  all you hangers on you are trying to rip off a bandaid slow, do it fast it hurts less and is over sooner. the only thing you have to fear it fear itself to use a fdr ww2 phrase.
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  The good in Jehovah's Witnesses.

  by ScoobySnax in

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  i don't think i've made any apology for my leanings here towards jws, whilst i don't imagine most here will agree with me, i just think its good sometimes to redress the balance on this forum in a small way to let people who might be reading/lurking/ know that.. despite feeling messed up a bit in my own head about which direction i want/have to take in my own life, and despite many struggles as deep and traumatic as many have experienced here, i still hold jws as a group in the highest esteem.

  i can remember what it was like to try and do the "right" thing and follow the way of the truth, it was bloody hard, and i fell down many times.

  i always used to try and pick myself up dust myself down and start over again, sometimes with success for longer periods than others.

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  kilroy2

  jws kill the good in people. there is no good in the jw religon. people are generaly good. but the witness trains them to squash the good in them.

  how else can you explain the way they make their people ignore thair own family and friends?

  you cant. it is training to kill the good in the jw people.
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  We were invited to The Memorial......

  by Nan in

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  our daughter-in-law (who is a witness) has invited us (via email) to the memorial on april 4. she says it's not just for jws.

  is this true??

  i thought this gathering was exclusively for witnesses; and to partake....er....not partake of the bread and wine?

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  kilroy2

  I have fallen so far out of sorts with the local indignus dubber population I dont even get invited any more. I guess they know it was me who puts up the silent lambs posters. lol
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  Have you really left?

  by Ariell in

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  i'm sure we all view the watchtower society as a mind controlling dictatorship that has systematically destroyed our lives is some shape or form.

  i'm sure this is why we've all left, but have we really?

  someone can physically leave a religion, but emotionally they're still there.

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  kilroy2

  I had a long hard road to mentaly change the mind control of the socity. there are many who do nothing in the borg,maybe go to a memorial once a year,and live a life that is compleatly unwitness related,and yet when you attack the beliefe system they defend it like it was the alamo. the stringth of the mind control is very strong. and weak minded people may never be able to relese themselves form it.
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  Would You Return To The Organization If You Were Given Total Amnesty?

  by minimus in

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  if you knew that the policy was that there would be no more witchhunts, no more disfellowshippings or shunning of any kind, would you be tempted to go back?

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  kilroy2

  after all the trouble they caused me the scaring for life. they would have to have a certified check for no less then 100k for me to consider going back and then only if I could give talks on the wrongs fo the socity.
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  Starting again at 50 with no friends?

  by eyeslice in

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  no sympathy please.

  generally, i never get depressed and am fairly resilient when having to cope with change.

  all my life, i suddenly stopped everything last december.

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  kilroy2

  since leaveing the dubbers, I have not made many friends. the problem imo, comes in that the dubs have a social life that is ubalanced, you go to 5 meetings a week study a couple hours on your own. and after work there is not much time after fitting in another 3 to 5 hours a week of door knocking. now you leave and you try to fill the void with something forgin, "a normal social life"

  After leaving the dubdom, I became an agnostic, and am happy with my not knowing. would I like to know how we all got here, you bet. do I think we can figure it out. not a chance. but for those who want a faith "fait the beliefe in something with no evedince" than why not go to another faith based group that does not try to control their people? you can meet new friends, and have new groups to do things with. and some one to tell the wows of being dubbers.

  I can not do this as I wont live a lie to myself. if I dont believe in somthing I cant pretend. "unless there is money involved" lol

  plus I have a large family here and that is only half the problem. they shun me eventhough I am not df'ed but I would not want to be with them any way. and did not when I was going. but I do have my home and rentals on the market and if all goes well we will move to arkansas, nicer wheather than north michigan. and taxes are lower. and I can speak my mind when a dubber comes to the door. I will not tell them I am a baptized former member of the cult, but will ask some fun questions about 607 ect.

  the thing is when you leave the dubbers you have a large hole in your life, because they took up almost all of your free life after work. no you need to start to reconstruct the missing part you have now torn out. it will be easier for some than others, the more outgoing a person is the easier it will be for them to start a new life.
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  Things you threw away when becoming a witness

  by JH in

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  are there any things you threw away when you became a witness that you now regret throwing away?

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  kilroy2

  I can remember going to the assembly in st. pet. fla. and a elder giving a talk on music. he even had a reel to reel with queen on it and played it backwards. he claimed it said decied to smoke marj. I was not convinced even though I got rid of my ofencive tapes to keep my job with the schmidt of arcadia. I got a reel to reel and we taped a coulple of us singing the same song and played it backwards. guess what it sounded the same you could kind of say it said decied to smoke marj. so it was just the words not something put in afterwords. and here you have this fat ass elder giving more crap that most borg wont question and we are throwing out our tapes. I threw out a styx belt buckel I really liked. I have since got many cds from mind numb dubbs as I am always keeping an eye out for the rush to throw. and intercept. last hall I got 16, kept some and sold the rest for albums I like. you know I still cant get the record store to give me a thin dime for any of the dubbs melodys.lol

  they will never influence me to do any thing excpt fight them again. we shall fight them on the streets we shall fight then on the internet. and in the bulletin boards. and the schools. picture me with a bola hat and a big cigar. for efect