I think men first became violent when God started to require animal scrafices after adam sinned. Imangine the millions of animals slaughted in the name of religion. What about in the Law Covenant stoning your mother or son or daughter or father to death for a violation of law? Not only kill the sinner, but make him/her suffer first. How about God having foolish children torn to pieces by a bear because they were disrespectful, or the guy on reflex tried to prevent the ark from falling. The worship of Jeh included violence. "Nature" is more violent than Iraq. I've turned off nature shows because I don't like seeing animals torn to shreds by other animals. I personally don't like violent entertainment just for the sake of seeing violence, but I love watching boxing. I can't figure it all out. But we were taught that we were created in God's image of God and God has no problem with violence. The bible is full of "righteous retribution".
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Violent entertainment and it's effects
by sabastious inthe watchtower has always talked about violence in entertainment.
it is one of the watchtower's historical hot topics.. and for good reason too.
virtual violent entertainment is a very new phenomenon in our world.
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KM (Elder School) Brief Highlights
by XBEHERE inbesides the usual drivel there were a couple interesting things.
1. an entire 1 hour discourse on helping our children become little innocent martyrs for the wt via.
their flawed and unreasonable blood doctrine.
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pontoon
Back some years ago in a elders meeting we were discussing all that new crap about transfusions, what was allowable and what was a conscience matter. Who was going to give that part on the service meeting. They wanted me to do it, maybe in part because I went through my own life-threating need a transfusion ordel, stayed faithful and survived. One brother made the comment that just because it was a conscience matter, it didn't mean whatever way you decided was OK. That would have to be stressed to the congregation. So I said if a fraction of blood is wrong, why doesn't the slave just say it is, just like they say whole blood or one of its major components is wrong? No real answers of course. I wouldn't do the talk, was already fading anyway. Even when I face the issue personally, I didn't quite get it, but I thought it must be me. Anyway I know better now.
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KM (Elder School) Brief Highlights
by XBEHERE inbesides the usual drivel there were a couple interesting things.
1. an entire 1 hour discourse on helping our children become little innocent martyrs for the wt via.
their flawed and unreasonable blood doctrine.
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pontoon
You got to see it from gb point of veiw---let's see now, I don't pay taxes, don't pay electric, don't pay oil or gas, don't pay insurance, don't pay mortgage, don't pay rent, don't buy cars, don't pay for vacations, don't pay for doctors, don't pay for dentists, don't pay for eyeglasses, don't pay for food, I DO PAY for MY OWN TOOTHPASTE, all r&f needs to be just like us, what do they need a good education for anyway???????????
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KM (Elder School) Brief Highlights
by XBEHERE inbesides the usual drivel there were a couple interesting things.
1. an entire 1 hour discourse on helping our children become little innocent martyrs for the wt via.
their flawed and unreasonable blood doctrine.
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pontoon
They sure don't have a problem with exploiting the knowledge and skills of those that do have higher education. Bethel doctors, dentists, nurses, engineers, architects, lawyers, lawyers, lawyers, lawyers........
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JW self-defense...WT says we are too slow to use a gun!!!.......
by oompa inyou gotta read this to beleive it!.....lately my mind is teaching s we had that "went beyond what is written" and this subject on self defence has cracked me up!!
!.....you if gotta see this to believe it!....not just guns....but almost everthing is bashed...they did leave out the option of us carrying a sword o.j.
style....or a spear.....this will make my list....(and you can have no privileges if you carry a gun at work...cop or security guard).......... *** g91 7/8 p. 12 self-defensehow far can a christian go?
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pontoon
I can speak about Judo. Our motto was you can run with confidence. In other words, avoid a fight if possible but you know you can take care of business at hand if you have to. The first purpose of Judo is not to hurt someone else, it's to protect self. Judo can be used completely defensely. A well trained Judo man can so competely overwhelm an attacker its likly to be over in a few seconds with the attacker needing time to get his bearings and figure out what just happened and where he is. And I'm OUT of THERE! Even so, I have a permit, a pistol, and I know how to use that too. Great previous post about selling what you have to buy a sword. Damm highway men out there.
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The organisation wants our money
by Heartofaboy inhas anyone heard that at the end of the theocratic service meeting last night the organisation asked for money, pensions, properties, shares, insurance policies in fact anything of any financial value?.
it upset some people attending the meeting.. .
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pontoon
Last I heard was newest expansion at Wat. Farms included a sports and exercise building for about $3,000,000. C'mon widows, give up those coins, we need em.
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Is The Governing Body Paid? If So, How Much?
by Cold Steel injust curious.
if they have living expenses, it must mean that they do their jobs all the time.
but these men also are of the anointed class, right?
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Is The Governing Body Paid? If So, How Much?
by Cold Steel injust curious.
if they have living expenses, it must mean that they do their jobs all the time.
but these men also are of the anointed class, right?
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pontoon
I don't think they get any more money than any other bethelite, BUT, just think of what is included in their COMPENSATION PACKAGE. Medical, dental, vision, beautiful apts, no electric bill, haircuts, meals, plane tickets to any place in the world, Wtower car and driver if they want one, clothing allowance, motel rooms, and last but not all, GREEN HAND SHAKES. I used to work for a man (very wealthy) and one of the GB would visit him often. My boss treated him like he was something more than human and and kept him in the $$$$. I don't know of any average R&F he visited.
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miracles??
by pontoon inmy first post.
something that has annoyed me for years.
i'm sure the official borg teaching is jeh.
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pontoon
Everytime something works out its not because Jeh. worked it out. Things work out for "worldly" people too. Borg teaches time and unseen circumstances, but only apply it to unfavorable outcomes. In the case of ---say a successful surgery, I like to give credit to skilled Drs. and medical staff.
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miracles??
by pontoon inmy first post.
something that has annoyed me for years.
i'm sure the official borg teaching is jeh.
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pontoon
My first post. Something that has annoyed me for years. I'm sure the official borg teaching is Jeh. does not do personal miracles, but certainly will work things out for the organization. Nevertheless, constantly from the platform we hear how Jeh. got this bro. a job, or save a person from some tragedy, or gave someone some financial windfall when they were down to their last penny so they could attend a convention, or worked it out for some sister to get some wore out Plymouth so she could continue pioneering,---and on and on and on. We had a bethelite brother pray one time for "Jeh. to guide the hands of the surgeon" when the unbaptized husband of one of our sisters was going in for surgery. Would Jeh. have to use a surgeon or could he just do it himself? So ridiculous. I was going to counsel that brother but there was to big of a crowd around him complimenting him on his beautiful prayer and I just wanted to go home. We had someone suffer a annurism and survive. Everyone was saying that Jeh. did not want her to die yet. Meanwhile, she can't see straight, walk, and is barely able to talk. Years ago a dear sister at about 35 years old had a heart attack during the public talk and died right there in the hall. Jeh. didn't care about her? I could go on, but enough said.