Not far enough. Last meeting about June of 2010. Way too much family still in. Not able to break free completely yet. Family does not know I no longer attend.
pontoon
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How far are you on your journey away from the JW Org?
by punkofnice ini mentally left the org in march 2010. i stepped down as an elder after my lad got into trouble.
i researched the publications to make myself 'spiritually strong' but it backfired.. i was in mental and emotional turmoil, still on fs, the platform and meetings etc.
i had to force myself to conform to ever failing jw doctrine.. i announced to my family that i was not going back to meetings in august 2010 after the 'overlapping' joke of 'new light'.. i told the elders not to call.
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How far are you on your journey away from the JW Org?
by punkofnice ini mentally left the org in march 2010. i stepped down as an elder after my lad got into trouble.
i researched the publications to make myself 'spiritually strong' but it backfired.. i was in mental and emotional turmoil, still on fs, the platform and meetings etc.
i had to force myself to conform to ever failing jw doctrine.. i announced to my family that i was not going back to meetings in august 2010 after the 'overlapping' joke of 'new light'.. i told the elders not to call.
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pontoon
Not far enough. Last meeting about June of 2010. Way too much family still in. Not able to break free completely yet. Family does not know I no longer attend.
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Vow of Obedience
by Marvin Shilmer invow of obedience.
today i uploaded a document issued in year 2002 to members of the religious order of jehovahs witnesses.
this document highlights something new watchtower began requiring of members of this order.
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pontoon
#6 of that vow is the MOST CULT-LIKE thing that I EVER read about the borg. If after reading that, if the red flags don't go up you are in JW land forever.
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A question to the ex-JW's...
by losthobbit ini'm curious about what made you realize that your ex-religion was not "true"?.
i've had discussions with many religious people, and they're always trying to protect their beliefs, rather than allowing anything i say challenge what they believe.
was there ever something someone said to you, or something you read that maybe made you doubt your beliefs for the first time, or had a similar effect?.
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pontoon
"New Light' only seems to shine when the old light is proved wrong, or when leagally needed to protect the borg from lawsuits.
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Here i am....
by makersmark inhere i am - born in truth, hard-core spiritual everything all my life, early reg.pioneer, ms, elder, assembly parts, tour at bethel, etc, married now...... i'm trying to examine jw teachings a little closer...... i've spent the last two weeks reading many many posts, info , references on where ex-jw's are coming from.
i'm kind of concerned about a few things lately..... honestly - some points make sense to me - some don't - here are my general thoughts:.
-wt getting un membership for access to library - doesnt bother me - some passports and other governement documents have similar forms and requirements..... -blood issue - some counterpoints to the jw 'rules' makes sense (original intent of scripture is unbled animals, white blood cells similar in mothers milk) etc -however a lot of 'apostate' reasonings and proof are inaccurate.
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pontoon
What bothers me the most about the blood issue is the mess the borg made out of it. It should be simple, we can or can't. If we can't, really it should not even be used for tests. If we can, then it should be a non issue completely. I no longer believe in "no blood doctrine." The borg expects witnesses to stand firm on whatever changing blood doctrine they claim to be correct at the time, but the reason blood doctrine is changing is because the borg does not stand firm on their own doctrine. They change for fear of man (lawsuits). This is the only issue I'll comment on now.
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Disfellowshipping Offense
by Had To Go inso i went to my sister's wedding this past sunday, which happened to be smack dab in the middle of a church service.
my all faithful husband told me it was a dfing offense and that he was obligated to tell the elders that i was going to a church.
i really could care less about the actual act of being df it is the fact that my husband felt the need to "turn me in".
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pontoon
A widowed bethel sister went to the funeral of a disfellowshipped ex husband of a sister in the hall. I was already not attending anymore, but I know because it was covered by local TV news and I actually saw that sister and other dubs at the funeral on TV. Surprised the hell out of me! Was not any kind of an issue as far as I know. The reason why TV covered it is because that deceased ex-brother was brutally murdered. Conscience matter---do what you want
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The King of the North and the King of the South. What gives?
by dgp inif i understood correctly, one of the ideas advanced as proof of jehovah's witnesses beliefs is that of the kings of the north and the south.
i didn't understand much of it, to a large extent because i think it's nonsense, but something else i did find curious.. the king of the north was the soviet union, and the king of the south were the united states.
i am not sure the soviet union is "north" of the united states in any sense (think of alaska), but, that aside, what kind of theological distress resulted when the king of the north crumbled to pieces?
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pontoon
Thanks for reply Leo. I get what your saying.
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The King of the North and the King of the South. What gives?
by dgp inif i understood correctly, one of the ideas advanced as proof of jehovah's witnesses beliefs is that of the kings of the north and the south.
i didn't understand much of it, to a large extent because i think it's nonsense, but something else i did find curious.. the king of the north was the soviet union, and the king of the south were the united states.
i am not sure the soviet union is "north" of the united states in any sense (think of alaska), but, that aside, what kind of theological distress resulted when the king of the north crumbled to pieces?
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pontoon
Leolaia, it's been years since I read any Wat info on the two kings. What you wrote was sure interesting. In the Society's explanation wasn't it Jeh's earthly org. that assumes the role of Judea? It was the king of the n or s (no longer a geographical description) determined by how they treated Jeh's org. not determined by their role in world events? Anyway, lots of interesting thoughts on JWN!
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Did we sign our cosmic death certificates when we put a hole in the ozone layer?
by sabastious ini think about the hole in the ozone layer sometimes and it freaks me out.
does anyone have any words of encouragement on this matter?
i'll see if i can find some too.. -sab.
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pontoon
A lot of what caused the ozone hole is speculative theory. What is going on that high in the atmosphere cannot even be duplicated in lab to be put to the test. Clorine was suppose to be the main culprit in cloroflorocarbons, especially refrigerant 12 and 11, but when Mt. St. Helens blew, it put more clorine into the upper atmosphere than all of the refrigerants ever produced (since the early 1930's). This topic could be debated and probably will be for a long time.
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new construction
by pontoon inanyone been by wat farm and seen all the new construction going on?
not sure what it all is for, been out of touch, but one building i know is going to be a gym and recreation center.
i think the price tag on that was $3,000,000..
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Anyone been by Wat Farm and seen all the new construction going on? Not sure what it all is for, been out of touch, but one building I know is going to be a gym and recreation center. I think the price tag on that was $3,000,000.