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  Ladies, did/does your ex elder/elder husband tell you what the BOE discussed?

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  Did you feel your BOE was spirit directed?

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  when i was first appointed i did, not me myself, but the body as a whole.

  good group of spiritual men.

  at first a pleasure to serve with them.

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  When I was first appointed I did, not me myself, but the body as a whole. Good group of spiritual men. At first a pleasure to serve with them. But things change, in my case for the worse. Pettiness seemed to rule the body along with the fact that we probably erred with some of the appointments we made. One fairly young brother became all impressed with himself. His very first BOE meeting his hand shot right up to be on a committee involving immorality, and he's never miss one yet. I think he enjoyed "R" rated problems. New boy on the body should have sat fairly quiet and observed for a couple meetings. Anyone I felt that it wasn't holy spirit that prevailed, but it was the stronger personalities, mainly belonging to one family, always backing each other up. But it was good at first.
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  How far are you on your journey away from the JW Org?

  by punkofnice in

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  i mentally left the org in march 2010. i stepped down as an elder after my lad got into trouble.

  i researched the publications to make myself 'spiritually strong' but it backfired.. i was in mental and emotional turmoil, still on fs, the platform and meetings etc.

  i had to force myself to conform to ever failing jw doctrine.. i announced to my family that i was not going back to meetings in august 2010 after the 'overlapping' joke of 'new light'.. i told the elders not to call.

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  SIAM, what area of the world are you in?
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  Vow of Obedience

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  vow of obedience.

  today i uploaded a document issued in year 2002 to members of the religious order of jehovahs witnesses.

  this document highlights something new watchtower began requiring of members of this order.

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  They've been using that term quite a while now. "Christian Order of Jeh........" I think it is one of their many, many corporate names.
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  Vow of Obedience

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  vow of obedience.

  today i uploaded a document issued in year 2002 to members of the religious order of jehovahs witnesses.

  this document highlights something new watchtower began requiring of members of this order.

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  Just a little off thread topic, but still related. Close bethel couple to my ex-wife and I were very upset when they HAD to sign a paper to allow the bethel office access to their private medical records. That was just before the big bethel layoffs of 2007 or about. She was especially upset. They got put out anyway. The inference of signing that medical information release was that they would or did lie on their medical health assessement questionier.
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  How far are you on your journey away from the JW Org?

  by punkofnice in

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  i mentally left the org in march 2010. i stepped down as an elder after my lad got into trouble.

  i researched the publications to make myself 'spiritually strong' but it backfired.. i was in mental and emotional turmoil, still on fs, the platform and meetings etc.

  i had to force myself to conform to ever failing jw doctrine.. i announced to my family that i was not going back to meetings in august 2010 after the 'overlapping' joke of 'new light'.. i told the elders not to call.

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  Not far enough. Last meeting about June of 2010. Way too much family still in. Not able to break free completely yet. Family does not know I no longer attend.
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  How far are you on your journey away from the JW Org?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
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  i mentally left the org in march 2010. i stepped down as an elder after my lad got into trouble.

  i researched the publications to make myself 'spiritually strong' but it backfired.. i was in mental and emotional turmoil, still on fs, the platform and meetings etc.

  i had to force myself to conform to ever failing jw doctrine.. i announced to my family that i was not going back to meetings in august 2010 after the 'overlapping' joke of 'new light'.. i told the elders not to call.

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  Not far enough. Last meeting about June of 2010. Way too much family still in. Not able to break free completely yet. Family does not know I no longer attend.
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  Vow of Obedience

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  vow of obedience.

  today i uploaded a document issued in year 2002 to members of the religious order of jehovahs witnesses.

  this document highlights something new watchtower began requiring of members of this order.

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  #6 of that vow is the MOST CULT-LIKE thing that I EVER read about the borg. If after reading that, if the red flags don't go up you are in JW land forever.
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  A question to the ex-JW's...

  by losthobbit in

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  i'm curious about what made you realize that your ex-religion was not "true"?.

  i've had discussions with many religious people, and they're always trying to protect their beliefs, rather than allowing anything i say challenge what they believe.

  was there ever something someone said to you, or something you read that maybe made you doubt your beliefs for the first time, or had a similar effect?.

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  "New Light' only seems to shine when the old light is proved wrong, or when leagally needed to protect the borg from lawsuits.
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  Here i am....

  by makersmark in

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  here i am - born in truth, hard-core spiritual everything all my life, early reg.pioneer, ms, elder, assembly parts, tour at bethel, etc, married now...... i'm trying to examine jw teachings a little closer...... i've spent the last two weeks reading many many posts, info , references on where ex-jw's are coming from.

  i'm kind of concerned about a few things lately..... honestly - some points make sense to me - some don't - here are my general thoughts:.

  -wt getting un membership for access to library - doesnt bother me - some passports and other governement documents have similar forms and requirements..... -blood issue - some counterpoints to the jw 'rules' makes sense (original intent of scripture is unbled animals, white blood cells similar in mothers milk) etc -however a lot of 'apostate' reasonings and proof are inaccurate.

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  What bothers me the most about the blood issue is the mess the borg made out of it. It should be simple, we can or can't. If we can't, really it should not even be used for tests. If we can, then it should be a non issue completely. I no longer believe in "no blood doctrine." The borg expects witnesses to stand firm on whatever changing blood doctrine they claim to be correct at the time, but the reason blood doctrine is changing is because the borg does not stand firm on their own doctrine. They change for fear of man (lawsuits). This is the only issue I'll comment on now.