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  Celebrate Good Times: Come On!

  by headisspinning in

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  today marks our two years free.

  my now husband was df'd on september 13, 2009 and i was officially canned on september 15, 2009!.

  it has been a long road and if any of you remember, we initially came on this board looking for help to get reinstated.that is a huge laugh now, hey!

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  Congratulations, Julia
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  What Turns The Average "Worldly" Person Away From The Witnesses?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  is it their door-to-door incessant preaching?

  is it their view on blood?

  is it that the religion itself is simply often misunderstood?.

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  In my case, the "literature". I actually liked the people themselves. But couldn't imagine saying that a world wide flood did happen and evolution was a ruse of Satan. . with a straight face.

  Trouble with the "ministery" is, most "worldly" parents have no problem with education and/or intelligent use of the internet. They are even proud if their children occaisionally win an argument with logic! And once something is understood, as many have siad here, it can't be forgotten.
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  Well I have a choice to make

  by Igot2bme in

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  2. friends

  the elders came today without any notice and visited with me.

  they told me that my mother in law said i didn't want to have anything to do with the witnesses anymore.

  i said yes i did say that and then i laid it all out for them why i felt that jehovah god wasn't with them.

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  Igot2bme, two things stood out here

  They told me that my mother in law said I didn't want to have anything to do with the witnesses anymore

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  The one elders sister came to my house 2 weeks not to come see me but to see my daughter and recruit her

  Congratulations on your great response to the elders, and with an org like that, what do you have to lose?

  All the best in your free life, Retro
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  Parodying Theocratic words!

  by TimothyT in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  many posts here often include parodies of theocratic words.

  below are some examples:.

  borganisation - organisation!.

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  Pious-sneer!
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  My Father passed away during the night

  by jwfacts in

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  2. experiences

  dad was a great man, great, despite the religion.

  he was powerful, tall and intelligent, yet humble and kind.

  he was an introvert, and a circuit overseer.

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  JWfacts, my deep sympathy for your loss.

  As others have said, it seems that you and your father have much in common. The main thing being, that you both helped people cope. it would be hard to overestimate the benefits of your website.

  I profoundly hope that the funeral helps you, your family and the congregation.

  Retro
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  Has anyone on here ever taken a hot air ballon ride?

  by Joliette in

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  2. friends

  i've always wanted to go on a hot air ballon ride but i'm soooooooooo scared to do it.. has anyone on here ever done it.

  how much does it cost?.

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  Hi, I did 10 years ago in Alice Springs, Central Australia. Getting up in the middle of the night was hard - it gets freakin cold up there - but entirely worth it.
  The ascent was magic, almost like dreaming, no engine noise or tiliting or anything. Not at all scary. And you get a completely different perception of the country.

  We did have a bit of wind on the descent, and were crouched in the basket as it whipped through a bit of scrub.

  Overall, I want to do it again!
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  One scripture that got me thinking on my way to leaving...

  by MrFreeze in

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  2. beliefs

  when i was still in, i read a scripture that i think got me started on my route to leaving and not buying into the bs anymore.. for the longest time (ever since i was baptized) i wasn't exactly the beacon of a model brother in what i was really doing.

  you could say i was leading a "double life".

  my jw persona was holier than thou.

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  MrFreeze, in Punk's post the elder misquoted John 6:68 which should be "to whom will we go?". My "Bible study" conductor misquoted this too; perhaps it's in the wt literature somewhere?
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  I want to fade but ...

  by Dudu in

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  i need an advice.... has been 2 months since i went to a meeting and or field service, i received a call from an elder saying that he wants my monthly report , i dont know what to do coz he is been calling me for 4 days now i dont want to answer the phone, but at the same time i feel like just sending the report.

  the question is, should i fade slowly or just stop ?

  my family isnt jw only my mom is inactive..

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  Great progress, Dudu!
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  WT Society Alters their History as " The Party " did in George Orwell's 1984

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  finally my wife and i got around to reading george orwell's " 1984 " .

  as many of you know who have read the book that " the party " or " big brother " as the ruling power in the book is called ; constantly changes records of it's past dealings so as to deceive the public about any false forecasts they may have mistakenly made ; in an effort to put forth a positive image of itself it destroys past embarrassing records or paperwork which would expose the " party " as a failure.

  much the way the wt society has altered their history to deceive the public and their own members.. notice this quote from george orwell's " 1984 " on pg.

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  A great book, thanks for the reminder.

  Near the start, Winston replaces unfavourable (ungood; even doubleplus ungood) content of a newspaper by writing fiction. Since reading on this site it reminds me of the "Andre" stories and wading through alligator infested swamps to attend meetings. . .
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  Why JWs Often Have a Hard Time Thinking For Themselves

  by Jeremy C in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  today, cedars had a really good post on a questions from readers article in which the watchtower instructs jws to consult the watchtower library index when they have questions on personal matters.

  the watchtower article explained that the branch cannot answer all personal inquiries that come into their offices.

  this post got me thinking about an area that i gave a lot of thought to prior to; and after leaving the organization.

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  I’m certain that Watchtower headquarters is feeling overwhelmed by all of the questions (many of them rather petty, I’m sure) that pour into the service department. I think that the Watchtower leaders fail to realize that this is a monster of their own making.

  I'd suggest that even if they did know, they realise that they are painted into a corner. Every time a QFR is answered it must be consistent with all other questions, consistent with the current "light" and preferably fairly sensible or it will get hammered here and on other boards.

  The more questions you answer, the harder it gets.

  So what they do is - tell the poor jws to use the Bible and their conscience - but reserve the right to smack them if they don't like the result. Brazen behaviour is a useful tool. The result is the wt appears to be less prescriptive - but actually binds jws with more fears of displeasing J.

  Now if as a non-jw I've got this all wrong, please let me know.

  thanks, Retro