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  I believe God

  by N.drew in

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  someone said atheists are a minority.

  i think that is incorrect.

  salvation belongs to yhwh.

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  I should say that the thinking and arguing people here have looked for evidence of God. Because how else can they call us stupid fools for believing?

  OK thanks for clarifying. My take is that whatever isn't contradicted by fact, each of us can have a belief about that. Nothing stupid or foolish about it either.

  But when scientific theories are ridiculed on the basis of prior belief (or wilful misunderstanding), that's plainly silly. The scientific method is a way of trying to understand the universe we live in. For a believer to deny the reality of what was created (by any way God chose, including evolution), seems to me a sad lack of trust.

  This doesn't mean that any current scientific theory is perfect and must be believed. Most scientists know this very well and don't equate a theory or discovery with denial of a religious tenet.
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  I believe God

  by N.drew in

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  someone said atheists are a minority.

  i think that is incorrect.

  salvation belongs to yhwh.

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  I'm sorry I can not know what born in means. I have wondered about it.

  I understand that to mean you arrived at your present beliefs by searching and thinking. Is this right?

  Jehovah's Witness and Jewish is similar that way, are they?

  Couldn't say. I'm neither jw nor Jewish, and have never been. But many of my friends are reverting to the practices of the religion they were born into in their 50s; for that matter I enjoy reviving some of the customs and practices I grew up with.

  Thinking people look for evidence of God

  They do? I know many thinking people that go with what is, rather than searching for something that may never have been.
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  I believe God

  by N.drew in

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  someone said atheists are a minority.

  i think that is incorrect.

  salvation belongs to yhwh.

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  The versions of religion are man made

  Agreed.

  People worship whatever they want to (thus selfish) and they make religion out of it

  Beg to differ. People generally believe what they were taught as children, and/or what someone they admire and respect believes. For example, one of the jws admitted to me that she disliked going door to door, but believed that Jehovah required it.

  Do you mean like watching a lot of sport is sometimes called "worshipping" sport?
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  I believe God

  by N.drew in

  1. watchtower
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  someone said atheists are a minority.

  i think that is incorrect.

  salvation belongs to yhwh.

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  Good question, N.Drew - I think it's because he was a human like us.

  How do you get to the "many differing versions" from "because people are selfish"?

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  I believe God

  by N.drew in

  1. watchtower
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  someone said atheists are a minority.

  i think that is incorrect.

  salvation belongs to yhwh.

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  Retrovirus

  Salvation belongs to YHWH. "Let your will be done". Isn't anyone who is against the will of God an atheist?

  Hi N.Drew,

  Strictly speaking, no, if someone beleives in God and chooses not to do God's will, that person isn't an atheist.

  So what is the will of God? And why are there so many different versions?

  (and just for clarity, I'm a Deist, not an atheist)

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  I just thought I'd introduce myself...

  by celticstorm in

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  Welcome, Celticstorm!
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  Awake 3/2012: YPA - Is It Wrong To Be Popular? (with running commentary)

  by corpusdei in

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  reading sizemik's post on this ypa article, i went back and actually read the article.

  thought i'd actually put down the running commentary that was goung though my head with this thing.. young people ask: is it wrong to be popular?fill in the word that completes the following statement:.

  it is ________ good to be popular.. a. always.

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  Hi and welcome, little lost girl!
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  Hello! New here

  by shallbefree in

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  hi i just joined this site although i have been lurking for about a year now.

  i am the only jw in my family and now trying to fade.

  it's been more than a year since i attended meetings.

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  Welcome, shallbefree!

  You say "I am the JW in my family"; hopefully that means that the rest of your family is not in? That will help a lot, especially with the present hard line on shunning!

  I wish the jw in my family saw things as you do!

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  Applying Math, Physics, Archeology to THE STORY OF NOAH

  by Terry in

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  Retrovirus

  As well as Terry's point which my browser won't let me read. . .

  From the latest (April 2012) WT, page 23:

  Seven days before the floodwaters

  fell—just enough time for Noah and

  his family to load the animals into the

  ark—Jehovah finally told Noah exactly when the Flood would begin.

  so we don't know how many animals - or how God teleported them to Noah's doorstep - or how the neighbours viewed these strange events (why wouldn't they repent and ask for a lift?) - or why the animals didn't eat or squash each other during the week . . .

  But the GB knows that it took "just" a week to load the Ark!
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  More of my story, and need advice

  by marriedtoajw in

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  i've given part of my story under my previous user name sahara but i need some advice and so i need to give more detail.

  just a refresher, my wife was baptised 4 years ago and mil and fil have been jw's for 40 years, i've never been a jw but am a christian.

  about 18 years ago, just 2 years after my wife and i married my wife announced that she wanted to start studying with the jw's.

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  Retrovirus

  Hello and welcome, marriedtoajw!

  you said

  I lost my best friend and I feel lonlier. Turns out, that person may never have really existed and what she is now, she's always really been

  I'm a non-jw who watched my brother's marriage deteriorate as his wife got deeper into the cult. (before this, I'd seen jws as a bit odd but harmless). Their children suffered, although both parents did their best in their own ways. The real culprit is the cult; it forbids any compromise with "worldlies" and so constantly challenges and stresses the mixed marriage.

  I'm very sorry for what you're going through. But at least you can give your children a different perspective, a proper education and some critical thinking skills. Through you they may escape the jw future of limited education, pioneering , ead-end jobs and fear of anyone outside the jws.

  Best wishes for your future!