Posts by Kismet

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What does your username mean?

by closer2fine in

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i was just wondering what everyone's username meant.

i have my own guesses (sixofnine, silentlambs, slayerlayer-i'm almost afraid :o), amazing-enough said!,mommy, fredhall-is that your name?, ozziepost-from downunder, and the list goes on!

please share!!

Kismet

Dictionary definition:

kismet \KIZ-met; -mit\, noun: Destiny; fate.

i.e It's pure kismet when these two find each other.

Much of my life has had an element of Kismet-esque happenings. When I first came online in 1989 I used another name. Kismet was introduced around 1992 as my doubts became firmer about the org and I started realizing a future with the Org was not my Kismet. My destiny/future ... my Kismet lay elsewhere.

I have also met and befriended many online that there seemed to be some kind of Kismet thing between us. So the name has come to take on many meanings.

Kismet

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Meet Silentlambs In Person!

by silentlambs in

i am going to be at a trial in ritzville, washington.

the town is about an hour southwest from spokane, wa.

i will be there on august 14th, which will be on a tuesday.

Kismet

Wendy:

The points you make are excellent. I am in no way defending the congregation's actions nor am I in any manner supporting this #$^& jerk who was convicted of molestation.

SilentLambs made a very strong assertion that the Society was using their resources to defend this abuser. Based on my experience with the Society's legal dept, I found that highly unlikely assuming therefore that other issues are being raised.

As I mentioned a couple of times in this thread, I admire and respect Bill for everything he has done. My post was more of a caution to him that highly sensationalized comments can backfire on his efforts. Since he is dealing with media outlets he has to be extrememly careful that everything he says can be verified. One mistake and everything collapses.

I meant no disrespect and certainly did not intend to put a negative spin on his activities. What he stated in his first post in this thread did not make sense. I asked for clarification. It was refused.

You expressed reasonable concern that my 'negative comments' might encourage the silence of some. If so I would be deeply bothered by that. I would (and have) backed people to speak up.

If there are in fact silentlambs reading this as you suggest...to them I say, yes please speak up. Do not suffer in silence.

But when you chose the time best for you and your growth, stick to the facts. Don't embellish/sensationalize, it will always work better for you ... especially legally.

This is the essence of what I was saying in this thread, albeit unsuccessfully.

Thanks Wendy for your thoughts & great quote!!

Kismet

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Meet Silentlambs In Person!

by silentlambs in

i am going to be at a trial in ritzville, washington.

the town is about an hour southwest from spokane, wa.

i will be there on august 14th, which will be on a tuesday.

Kismet

bajarama:

I understand where you are coming from. However a few things...

Are you calling silentlambs a lair?

No I did not call him a liar. I asked for clarification. When it couldn't be provided I simply chose not to believe 'every uttered expression'

Do you have proof what he is saying is sensationalism? What have you done to help victims of the Watchtower?

the proof is on the individual that makes the initial allegation to provide proof. Onus is not on those reading an article to prove it wrong but on an author to validate his assertions.

What I have done for victims is a) none of your business and b) a non issue in this thread.

you continued:

This post is not about what you, or what you think, nor may I add do I care?

Nice. Close mindedness is such a blissful condition I am sure. You are able to read Bill's mind to determine his intent of his post??

Silentlambs never asked for your commentary, just your support if you were able to give it.

I will say this slowly. this ...is .. a ... DISCUSSION Board. If someone posts something here it is open for discussion.

Go start a new post with all your babble and maybe someone will throw you a bone of attenion

tell ya what...when you become owner of this board I'll give a rat's ass about following your rules of posting...until then let's not detract any further from the topic of this thread.

If you have a problem with me take it to email or if you want your own 'bone' start a new thread and continue your attack on me there.

Kismet

PS - There seems to be an awful lot of underlying seething venom in your post. Strange to see that in 'first contact' If you have issues with me under another alias why not deal with those rather than trying to mask it under concern for Bill.

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Meet Silentlambs In Person!

by silentlambs in

i am going to be at a trial in ritzville, washington.

the town is about an hour southwest from spokane, wa.

i will be there on august 14th, which will be on a tuesday.

Kismet

Your post did not really indicate you were looking for an answer to be posted. I presumed you were asking rhetorical questions to try and get myself and/or others to justify or at least think about our position. But since you asked.. :)

If defending 'ecclesiatic privilege'allows a child molester to go free and other children to be put at risk, is there moral and ethical basis for doing so?

Personally I am against this antiquated, ill thought out 'loop hole'. However I am against singling out the JWs. If other religions can claim it I feel the WTBS is somewhat justified LEGALLY. Morally is another issue. Morality however is not usually fought in the courts.

Morally, if they were indeed God's chosen people, one would think they would go above and beyond what other religions are doing in order to protect the flock, especially defenceless children.

Could you look yourself in the mirror if you were responsible for a legal action that caused a child to be raped?

Simplistic hypothetical situation, for which I cannot and will not provide an answer. There are far too many possibilities. I will say however that I would always do what I could to protect a child if it was within my ability to do so.

Kismet

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Meet Silentlambs In Person!

by silentlambs in

i am going to be at a trial in ritzville, washington.

the town is about an hour southwest from spokane, wa.

i will be there on august 14th, which will be on a tuesday.

Kismet

Bill wrote:

I choose to not reveal the basis for my understanding of wt involvement. I can say in other cases where wt has been involved a certain venue is followed. This script has been followed to the letter in this case. I also have hard evidence of wt involvement, I KNOW, why should I share it with you?

Well then, I choose to not believe everything you say. Nor will I fly half way across the country at your request. You have much credibility due to your courageous stand. That credibility however is not absolute. I believe it only fair that when you make very strong statements like the Soci0ety is defending a molester in court, then you shouldn't be surprized if someone asks you to back that up with facts.

I understand you wanting to protect the case, then don't come to a public forum making allegations that you are unwilling to back up.

Please don't get me wrong. I am not attacking you Bill. I admire everything you have done. But if you make sensationalised comments without prove you weaken your position. I don't ant to see that happen.

You can contact me at [email protected] if I can ever be of any use to you or those silent lambs contacting you.

Kismet

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ATTENTION W.T.B.T.S

by zev in

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we the aforementioned apostates do hereby serve notice.

we want you to change the name of your organization.

we the people of this board, have suggestions for you.. 1. watchtower bible and lie society.

Kismet

Josephus...

get a grip. We were just venting a little incorporating a little humor.

Sheesh ... I am the guy almost defending the JW's here at times. I too need to vent once in a while.

Take your soapbox (albeit well intentioned) elsewhere and outta this thread. It was meant to be fun.

Kismet

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ATTENTION W.T.B.T.S

by zev in

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we the aforementioned apostates do hereby serve notice.

we want you to change the name of your organization.

we the people of this board, have suggestions for you.. 1. watchtower bible and lie society.

Kismet

Zev:

Well done. Here are a few more....

Watch Tower publications and other personal writings Society?

Watch Tower Printing and Distribution Society

Society for the preservation of patriarchal society and 2,000 year old morality and beliefs

Society for the preservation of geriatric governing body members

Watch Tower control Society

Watching to see 99% of the world die in horrific fashion at God's hand Society.

Okay so we missed a few predictions.. Society

Just a few others you could add.

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OH.MY.GAWD! 3,000th Post by Ol' Waiting

by waiting in

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great balls of fire!.

this little diddy will be my 3,000th post.. quoting my husband when he finally read a post by me (i made him, btw.

) "2,450 posts!

Kismet

Waiting...

Just read your reply above. thanks for the honorable mention...I had forgotton about the PMS designation for you!! LOL

.... if the shoe fits....

Kismet

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OH.MY.GAWD! 3,000th Post by Ol' Waiting

by waiting in

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great balls of fire!.

this little diddy will be my 3,000th post.. quoting my husband when he finally read a post by me (i made him, btw.

) "2,450 posts!

Kismet

Congrats Waiting!!

As one of the eldest members here (I am not talking about age...but then again... ) ... it is only appropriate that you achieve this plateau first.

rough calculations indicate that means, on average you make just over 7 posts a day. That is an easy feat ..one good argument...ummm discussion requires at least that many replies.. :)

Or one joke thread contianing 5 jokes in one day, plus 2 replies... piece of cake to get to 3,000 after 14 months of posting.

and "Oh...my...gawd..." she still hasn't used up all her quotes yet!!

Kismet

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Kingdom Hall Apartments Must be Vacated!

by Disengaged in

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just wondering if anyone heard about the letter that was sent out to all congregations whose kh have an apartment attached to it.

the edict from bethel was that these apartments were to be vacated a.s.a.p.

the reason: so retiring do's & co's with no place to go could occupy them.

Kismet

COs and DOs are part of the now decade old religious Order of Special Full Time Servants and bethelites. As such these individuals are considered as being under the 'vow of poverty'. By providing accommodation for these people in religious buildings (Kingdom halls/Assembly Halls) there is no taxable benefit nor rent..tho I presume these ones would be asked to care for maintenance and give as they are able to....

Often long time servants such as these remain on the list as Special Pioneers and continue to receive their allowance. Or if they so desire can quit and go look for other employment. This has tightened up a bit recently however. But if someone has been in fulltime service since their 20's and are now 70, the Society USUALLY will consider this arrangment.

Kismet - who realizes he sounds like he is defending the Borg but is more concerned with keeping things accurate.