The best part of the story I have saved for last... It was my mother trying to entice my sister to return to the religion in a sing-song, wheedling voice: "Come back, <sister's name>.... Come baccckkkkkkk!"....
I'm sorry, but that's just creepy.
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Through The Grapevine Report on Recent Circuit Assembly
by headisspinning ini just got a call from my 'faded' sister who still has the 'pleasure' of having contact with our jw family.. my mother called her and said that she and our dad had their circuit assembly this weekend and apparently a governing body member gave a talk... that seems very odd to me.
do governing body member usually speak at circuit assemblies?
maybe it was a branch member?.
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Through The Grapevine Report on Recent Circuit Assembly
by headisspinning ini just got a call from my 'faded' sister who still has the 'pleasure' of having contact with our jw family.. my mother called her and said that she and our dad had their circuit assembly this weekend and apparently a governing body member gave a talk... that seems very odd to me.
do governing body member usually speak at circuit assemblies?
maybe it was a branch member?.
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headisspinning
I just got a call from my 'faded' sister who still has the 'pleasure' of having contact with our JW family.
My mother called her and said that she and our dad had their circuit assembly this weekend and apparently a Governing Body member gave a talk... that seems very odd to me. Do Governing Body member usually speak at circuit assemblies? Maybe it was a Branch member?
In any case, I'm just telling what I was told...
This individual gave a talk and repeatedly stressed the importance of never giving up on disfellowshipped family members. (WTF?)
I'm not clear if it was during his discourse or one that followed, but my mother said they spoke of something in New York called 'The Manhattan Project'. From what I was told, there was a brother who negotiated with Wal-Mart and finally got permission to set up a table with Watchtower literature on the store property. He discovered that most of the interest was from disfellowshipped and ex-JWs.
From there, 'The Manhattan Project' was set up to try to reach those in locked buildings etc. Again, most of the interest shown was from df'd and ex-Jws... and several studies were started.
Has anyone else reported on this? I'm sorry if I missed the boat, but this is the first I heard of it. Can anyone corroborate?
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My Husband's Kids Have Cut Him Off
by headisspinning inwell, my husband's worst fear has happened.
he told his kids, ages 15 and 10 that he was coming to visit them over the holidays.
his ex-wife limits his telephone contact to one call per week, so when he called them last week to arrange the specific days he would see them, his son told him that he got baptized back in september and would no longer be willing to see his father.. this came as a complete shock.
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First of all... I LOVE you guys... New Chapter, Flipper, Tec (Tammy), Retro, Mad, Mouthy, Steve2, (I'm sorry I can't list everyone)... but you guys have kept us alive. I know that I can't always come on here and participate, but I read EVERY day and you guys have saved us. Really. We besides our kids, we have my one sister, Steve's new found family, two 'worldly' friends and you guys... so please, please know that you have truly changed out lives and let us see a way to keep on going, when there didn't seem to be a way.
I am very blessed because my children were always raised with the understanding that as much as we wanted them to 'be in the Truth', no matter what we would love them and it was their choice to make. Thank 'God' my ex agreed with me on that before I left the JW's for good. So my son, who is 15 listened and he has 'left the Truth' for all intents and purposes. He still lives with his JW dad and attends the meetings because that's a 'house rule' BUT he told his dad that it would be hypocritical to go door-to-door when he doesn't believe and his dad agreed. (So, ya... even though my ex is an 'ass' he isn't a complete moron... (well, he IS, but you know what i mean, I hope!)
It's much more difficult with my husband's kids because they were never left any choice. They have been indoctrinated, immersed, brainwashed... you know the 'model JW family' that would make you puke on the convention programs? THAT is them. And my husband was the one who made them that way. Hardcore. Hardcore. At least with my kids, we were never 'perfect' in their sight... we made mistakes and had fun and were always a little more 'edgy' but my husband? Aye yi yi... So he takes full responsibility for how his kids are being and I guess maybe that's why he doesn't think that even I fully understand...
At this point, my little girl is fully brainwashed as well and wants to be JW BUT... thankfully, she has a bit of an edge, because me and her dad (my ex) have always encouraged her to THINK and use her brain... fingers crossed (oh and that's 'bad'... LOL!)
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My Husband's Kids Have Cut Him Off
by headisspinning inwell, my husband's worst fear has happened.
he told his kids, ages 15 and 10 that he was coming to visit them over the holidays.
his ex-wife limits his telephone contact to one call per week, so when he called them last week to arrange the specific days he would see them, his son told him that he got baptized back in september and would no longer be willing to see his father.. this came as a complete shock.
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Hi Everyone...
I read all your messages and then I got him to read them all too.
He wanted me to let you know that he appreciates all of your comments and is considering all of your thoughts, advice, comments and suggestions.
The things I didn't mention, that he wanted me to add are that it has been two years since he has been apart from his children. They live one province away - to drive it takes 24 hours and a weekend there usually costs us about $1000 for 3 days (for him to go) but he has gone every chance there's been.
Also, the once-a-week phone calls are still in place. The kids have agreed to that much.
Also, they have a baby brother who is 16 months old now. They won't acknowledge him, much less meet him and I'm not even sure they know his name. I also have two kids who I talk freely with. My son is the same age as my husband's son - thankfully mine has realized the truth and doesn't believe in it. But when I told my daughter who is 10 about what's going on with her 'step siblings' (that refuse to acknowledge her or her brother)... she said: "See mom, THAT's why I don't even want to meet them. I think they're mean."...
Anyway, just a few extra details... and thank you all so much!
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My Husband's Kids Have Cut Him Off
by headisspinning inwell, my husband's worst fear has happened.
he told his kids, ages 15 and 10 that he was coming to visit them over the holidays.
his ex-wife limits his telephone contact to one call per week, so when he called them last week to arrange the specific days he would see them, his son told him that he got baptized back in september and would no longer be willing to see his father.. this came as a complete shock.
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He doesn't want to do anything to upset them despite my reactive suggestions ranging from 'call the lawyer' to 'call your ex'... he made it very clear to them that he loves them and is just heartbroken and reminded them several times that if they ever need him or change their minds, to call him right away!
The kids know he loves them - there is no doubt about that - but they are very, very brainwashed and controlled. We just hope that one day they will need him and he will be there for them in a heartbeat.
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My Husband's Kids Have Cut Him Off
by headisspinning inwell, my husband's worst fear has happened.
he told his kids, ages 15 and 10 that he was coming to visit them over the holidays.
his ex-wife limits his telephone contact to one call per week, so when he called them last week to arrange the specific days he would see them, his son told him that he got baptized back in september and would no longer be willing to see his father.. this came as a complete shock.
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headisspinning
Well, my husband's worst fear has happened. He told his kids, ages 15 and 10 that he was coming to visit them over the holidays. His ex-wife limits his telephone contact to one call per week, so when he called them last week to arrange the specific days he would see them, his son told him that he got baptized back in September and would no longer be willing to see his father.
This came as a complete shock. Nobody has said a word about any of this and now almost three months have passed and he has only been told now that his son will no longer associate with him.
Then, to make is worse, his 10 year old daughter got on the phone and said that although she is not baptized, she is working towards it and so she has decided she won't see him anymore either.
They both told him that if he returns to the religion and gets reinstated, then they would be open to seeing him.
As you can imagine, he is devastated.
He spoke to both of the kids again a couple of days ago and he told them that this was a total shock to him and that it isn't right that he wasn't told his son's plans BEFORE it happened. He told them that he is well within his rights to fight this legally, but at the same time, he doesn't want to alienate them by forcing visitation. He made it clear how upset and also hurt he is, but both kids were firm in their resolve 'to do things Jehovah's way'.
He plans to write a letter to their mother and take her to task. Her allowing the kids to refuse visitation is contrary to their legal agreement but we feel it's best to confront HER about this - not the kids.
Anyway, that's what's happening around here these days.
And please keep in mind, these kids were fully indoctrinated by their father himself - he was VERY serious about their JW upbringing (brainwashing) and he blames himself for what's happened. HE trained them this way and now it's blowing up in his face :(
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Congregation Coordinator Disfellowshipped
by headisspinning inmy sister just told me that the congregation coordinator from my last hall was recently disfellowshipped.
his wife passed away within the past year.. all i know is that the first announcement was that he was no longer an elder.. and then a while later that he had been disfellowshipped.. he was quite prominent in the city where i live and he has been specifically named on this website at least once - if not twice.
specifically, there was at least one post by 'dogpatch' where his name was mentioned.. just thought i would share..
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I have very limited information but the general assumption is that 'immorality' was involved. NOT anything to do with children! I do believe he is a good man. Just a human being like the rest of us.
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Congregation Coordinator Disfellowshipped
by headisspinning inmy sister just told me that the congregation coordinator from my last hall was recently disfellowshipped.
his wife passed away within the past year.. all i know is that the first announcement was that he was no longer an elder.. and then a while later that he had been disfellowshipped.. he was quite prominent in the city where i live and he has been specifically named on this website at least once - if not twice.
specifically, there was at least one post by 'dogpatch' where his name was mentioned.. just thought i would share..
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headisspinning
My sister just told me that the Congregation Coordinator from my last hall was recently disfellowshipped. His wife passed away within the past year.
All I know is that the first announcement was that he was no longer an elder.
And then a while later that he had been disfellowshipped.
He was quite prominent in the city where I live and he has been specifically named on this website at least once - if not twice. Specifically, there was at least one post by 'DogPatch' where his name was mentioned.
Just thought I would share.
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why JWs doesn't celebrate birthday?
by vientotz ini'm so curious, why they're not celebrating their birthdays?
is it just because jesus don't celebrate it and it's not written in the bible that they celebrated the birthday of jesus?
or is it written in the bible not to celebrate birthday?
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headisspinning
Jehovah's Witnesses don't celebrate birthdays because the money they might spend on birthdays should be contributed to the Watchtower. Birthdays are silly and frivolous and that money belongs in the contribution box!
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Kicked Out of the Kingdom
by headisspinning inwhen i was little, i remember my mom reading this book - 'kicked out of the kingdom'.
then she told me it was bad.
so of course, it always stuck in my head and i'm wondering if anyone has read it or has any background info.. funny that she read that, hey?.
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When I was little, I remember my mom reading this book - 'Kicked Out of the Kingdom'. Then she told me it was bad. So of course, it always stuck in my head and I'm wondering if anyone has read it or has any background info.
Funny that she read that, hey?