there was a 50 year gap between the failed dates of 1925 and 1975.. memories fade, people die, and who cares what was said 50 years ago.. most jw's now in the religion werent there when 1975 was a thing.
even my mother who was baptized in 1974 who i do remember speaking about it back in the day, can barely remember what the fuss was about.
for active jw's who are doing all there studying online now, its practically impossible to find any wt contemporary reference to 1975.. i read recently (sorry i cant source it right now) that at the time, even watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking.
Number 6 - "...I read recently (sorry I cant source it right now) that at the time, even Watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking..."
Ray Franz said as much in Crisis of Conscience.
Typical Wall Street-style business mindset...
...the membership is a resource first, and flesh-and-blood people a distant second.
i agree with people who say all lives matter.
i think blm is a racist group.
if white people pushed an agenda saying white lives matter, some people would have a conniption..
"Do you agree with their philosophy?"
I agree with all philosophies.
Even the ones that conflict.
Especially the ones that conflict, in fact.
there was a 50 year gap between the failed dates of 1925 and 1975.. memories fade, people die, and who cares what was said 50 years ago.. most jw's now in the religion werent there when 1975 was a thing.
even my mother who was baptized in 1974 who i do remember speaking about it back in the day, can barely remember what the fuss was about.
for active jw's who are doing all there studying online now, its practically impossible to find any wt contemporary reference to 1975.. i read recently (sorry i cant source it right now) that at the time, even watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking.
phoenixrising - "...seeing Lett going off the rails when Covid started..."
Video link?
there was a 50 year gap between the failed dates of 1925 and 1975.. memories fade, people die, and who cares what was said 50 years ago.. most jw's now in the religion werent there when 1975 was a thing.
even my mother who was baptized in 1974 who i do remember speaking about it back in the day, can barely remember what the fuss was about.
for active jw's who are doing all there studying online now, its practically impossible to find any wt contemporary reference to 1975.. i read recently (sorry i cant source it right now) that at the time, even watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking.
Funny thing about apocalyptic end-time groups...
...historically they kinda have to occasionally date-set to drum up zeal amongst the membership.
...
Problem with the WTS is that by now, they've done it so many times that the tactic is long past its sell-by date...
...trying it this late in the game would undermine their credibility more than produce the desired result.
the point of the letter was how many are feeling disappointed these days.. no circuit assembly, convention, how we can't fellowship at the k.h.
disappointed we might have had a love one die, etc etc.
he then goes on to write about how disappointed jehovah must have felt when his first human creation rebelled.
slimboyfat - "...What can they do? 'If you don’t donate more then we’re going to sell your Assembly Hall and local Kingdom Hall'?"
Oh, to be a fly on the wall at that conversation...
im new to this forum, i dont know where else to post my story, sorry if im wrong for posting this on this subject.
as i begin to wake up from being in the org i thought id introduce myself to this forum with how i was raised in the org..., ive been beginning to look at everyones stories from being raised as one and how they left, and i find comfort in knowing im not alone, so maybe another young person like me will find the same comfort reading my story.
as you can tell by my username, i am posting this on an anonymous account because of fear of what the elders would do to me and my parents if they found out who i was.
All the recent stories about the WTS increasingly doubling-down on its ruthless and draconian policies simply confirm something to me...
...that on some level - even if they're not consciously aware of it - they're feeling increasingly threatened and anxious about the Org's survival.
Authoritarian regimes in decline never improve or reform.
They squeeze tighter.
And eventually - more often than not because they keep squeezing tighter - they die.
i'm off to the supermarket to get some bumf.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeypy6oo0sq.
"Insightful advice or mere speculation?"
Like madness and brilliance, the two do occasionally overlap.
i would think that exjws would exercise more critical thinking than not.
now we are thrust in this “ world” and take sides on social issues and politics.. just because our government leaders say something it doesn’t mean it’s right.
just because the majority of the news media tells us how we should think, it doesn’t mean we have to follow.
@ Phizzy...
The "Lazy Class"...
...that's good.
a bit late in coming, but i have a new article on the cry of peace and security at https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/peace-and-security.php.
this was prompted by trump using the term peace and security a few times in 2017 and 2018, and the excitement this generated amongst jehovah's witnesses.
i would love to see other quotes you like on this topic, or texts and experiences..
I sometimes wonder if the anxious eagerness certain JWs display over the impending End is due to an unconscious desire to actually be free of the WTS...
...as though they think that once Armageddon is finished, their servitude to the Org will be over.
this article seems to confirm what we already knew:.
https://thewest.com.au/news/australia/jehovahs-witnesses-accused-of-selling-off-assets-and-moving-cash-to-avoid-sex-abuse-compensation-ng-08ffe6d55e293182580d9e34b4400088?transactionid=72145.
Holey_Cheeses - "Local kingdom hall on the North coast of NSW up for sale - 2.5 million dollars... watchtower will pocket the funds to quite likely fund court cases..."
Sooner or later, the family silver runs out, though.
