road to nowhere - "It will be painted as persecution over 'loving' biblical standards..."
Paying back Caesar's things to Caesar is persecution?
Posts by Vidiot
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41Prime Minister of Australia announces intention to revoke Jehovah’s Witnesses charity status
by jwleaks intoday, marking the second anniversary of the australian national apology to victims and survivors of institutional child sexual abuse, the prime minister of australia has announce in federal parliament the intention to place sanctions against the jehovah’s witnesses in relation to child sexual abuse.. quote from prime minister:.
the royal commission [into institutional response to child sexual abuse], the [national] apology [to victims and survivors of institutional child sexual abuse] and these yearly reports are about accountability: bringing the truth into the light ... we still have, reprehensibly, four institutions that have been named publicly and that have blatantly refused to join the redress scheme.
they are jehovah's witnesses ... it's not acceptable.
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What's the Latest re How JW's are Associating and Preaching?
by mikronboy ini've been out of the loop for a while so some things have passed me by.
so i'm curious how jw's are affected by the covid virus.
are they still preaching or having meetings etc?.
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Vidiot
@ hoser...
Seriously?
That's new (to me, at least).
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Ten bucks says that the Org leadership is too scared of losing their tax-exemption to dare defying secular instructions of closing, KHs, socially door-to-door work (i.e. socially isolating), or - as you said - keeping records...
...no matter how much they may tout "obeying God's laws rather than Man's", or not "compromising with Satan's World".
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What's the Latest re How JW's are Associating and Preaching?
by mikronboy ini've been out of the loop for a while so some things have passed me by.
so i'm curious how jw's are affected by the covid virus.
are they still preaching or having meetings etc?.
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road to nowhere - "...Extra zoom meetings for text and 'meeting for service' on zoom... Lots of coercion to attend the extra non official meetings..."
Unsurprising.
With a lack of physical KH-meetings and the door-to-door work (both which acted as the most effective form of tribal bonding amongst the rank-and-file), extra doses of rhetoric and propaganda is vital to maintain organizational cohesion.
It's pretty much all that's left, really.
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What's the Latest re How JW's are Associating and Preaching?
by mikronboy ini've been out of the loop for a while so some things have passed me by.
so i'm curious how jw's are affected by the covid virus.
are they still preaching or having meetings etc?.
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Vidiot
As far as I'm concerned, the fact that the door-to-door ministry...
...the most significant defining characteristic of the Jehovah's Witness religion...
...has not only become completely ineffective in its stated purpose, but isn't even being done anymore...
...is the biggest irony.
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Has Anyone Gotten Disfellowshipped Here and For What??
by minimus insex issues seem to be the number one reason but apostasy is right up there too.
even if you weren’t disfellowshipped , do you know why some people you know were disfellowshipped?
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Anna Marina - "My view is that the screws are being tightened."
Hell, yes.
In an odd way, this is a positive sign.
Every authoritarian regime in history that tightens the screw does so because it feels threatened.
And why would the Org feel threatened...
...if it wasn't actually at risk?
Not to mention that said screw-tightening always ends up facilitating the decline its meant to stave off.
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I noticed that a lot if not all JWs I watch on FB now have private Freinds and photos
by mickbobcat insome have done it for a while but in the last couple of years most all of the jws from my old congregation and others i know have privatized the fb and other social pages.
i wonder if its just happenstance or if its come down from on high to shut this off to further keep them isolated from the apostates?.
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"Stick to what we've authorized..."?
Ugh.
Out of all the guys at the top, Top-Shelf Tony's the one I'd like to see brought low the most.
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Anthony Morris depicts ex-members as ''Despicable Apostates''
by RULES & REGULATIONS inhere is one of the many commandments jesus instructed his twelve apostles to keep, follow, and obey!.
here is anthony morris ( supposedly selected by jehovah to keep, follow and obey the sayings of jesus ) name-calling and condemning enemies!
the pharisees used to label people as well.
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Vidiot
Way to dehumanize the opposition, Top-Shelf.
Asshole.
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Rolf Furuli Disfellowshipped Last Week
by Sea Breeze inwell known norway elder and watchtower doctrine apologist, (rolf furuli) was disfellowshipped a few days ago for the crime of expressing opinions contrary to some watchtower dictates.. like wt leadership in the past, they have no problem eating their own..
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Phizzy - "...it seems they have no one with the intellectual ability to be able to spin things sufficiently so that even the thickest, laziest R&F drone would not say WTF????"
Blame that shitbag Ted Jaracz.
By the early 00s, it actually looked like a measure of progressive reform might actually be on the table, probably because (among other things) the 20th Century had ended without the End, and the Org's eschatology needed a significant reexamination.
Then 9-11 happened, and the Old Man used it to stoke fear in said End amongst the leadership as a pretext to purge the liberals and moderates out of Bethel, and nip any reform in the bud*.
Unfortunately, that included the majority of creative-types and outside-the-box thinkers, who - like it or not - are vital when it comes to the kind of page-one rewrite the WTS's End-Times script so sorely needs.
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*I suspect due to the fact that allegations of sexual misconduct on his part were way likelier to become exposed if said reforms were implemented.
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New terminology? “Donations in Support of Kingdom Interests Worldwide”
by Ultimate Reality inpetra/atlantis recently posted and supplied a document on donations.
what stood out to me, besides the usual nonsense, was the phrase, “donations in support of kingdom interests worldwide.”.
this appears to be a change in terminology from donations in support of the “worldwide work of jehovah’s witnesses.”.
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Vidiot
These days, I'm pretty sure "Kingdom interests" is code for "rising tide of pedo-related legal fees".
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"The witness" documentary aired on TV last night for the first time
by joe134cd ini knew it was coming as it had been advertised on tv.
i just thought to myself, i hope that my father doesnt get wind of it.
if he sees this no good will come of it, so i never mentioned a word to him.
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joe134cd - "...nothing would bring me more satisfaction to see WT go down in a blaze of legal fire..."
Better for it to die a slow, ignominious death (or permanently end up a whispery shadow of its former glory).
Much more permanent.
And yet...
joe134cd - "...for his sake i hope Wt holds on long enough to out last him..."
...I'm kind of on the same wavelength as you, with regards to my mom.
joe134cd - "...I also hope that they dont start asset stripping and selling off KH..."
I do.
Sell 'em all, I say, and turn the Org into just another "e-church".
The way the Org's ideology and worldview is structured, that can't help but contribute to the aforementioned slow, ignominious death-slash-decline, as far as I'm concerned.