Terry - "What sort of people were the JW's who went to prison?"
also Terry - "useful idiots"
Not that you're wrong, but...
...don't be so hard on yourself.
do you feel a draft?
(jw’s did-in the 1960s)i thought you might find it interesting to review exactly what the u.s. government thought, studied, and wrote about people of conscience during the vietnam war.what follows comes from official records…more than half of the 27 million men eligible for the draft during the vietnam war were deferred, exempted, or disqualified.
(cortright, david (2008).
Terry - "What sort of people were the JW's who went to prison?"
also Terry - "useful idiots"
Not that you're wrong, but...
...don't be so hard on yourself.
the mangroves’ new light.
(a short story).
“oh, christ—just what i needed this morning—those jehovah people in the neighborhood!”.
Sounds almost like the "nightmare stage" of wishful thinking.
Which reminds me...
...when I've had a drink or three, I'm always tempted to outline a near-future scenario wherein the WT leadership has painted themselves so tightly into an ideological, financial, and legal corner that they deliberately try and provoke "Satan's World" into attacking them (completely ignoring the bit about "Babylon the Great" getting attacked first) in the desperate hope that Jehovah will then be compelled to step in and save their collective asses at the last moment...
...in no small part because if it doesn't happen, they (like all other authoritarian regimes in the past) would rather the Org crash-and-burn if it can't continue the way it has.
i can see it that watchtower will become an online/tv based group with just con-vention hall$.. field service would be letter writing and phone preaching, door to door is done.. watchtower will have pay to view programs and still ask for donations after all that.. zoom meetings are here to stay.
kingdumb halls will be sold off except for con-vention venues, or need for new ones$.. df'ing will continue.
the craziness will continue.
Foolednomore - "Prediction of how Watchtower going to be in 5 years..."
Caught between having to do whatever they can to ensure the WTS's continued survival and trying to shore up the fiction of "God's Exclusive Earthly Organization" amongst the R&F...
...they're already looking pretty fucking weird.
In five years, expect that to be dialed up to 11.
w85 7/1 p. 21 par.
16 - an increasing “great crowd...out of all nations” are flocking to the org jehovah’s worship.
the brooklyn pharisees assured the sheeple for decades that isaiah 2:2, micah 4:1-3, & haggai 2:7 were prophetically.
nicolau - "...they can spin anything any way they want. They can turn falling numbers into proof of Jehobabobs blessings if they want to."
"Everything is proof we're right! Even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff!!!"
the watchtower teaches that the demons are the angels that came down here on earth right before the flood but research shows otherwise in this video i consider the identity of demons.if you never looked in this subject you will find this interesting ,let me know what you think.
https://youtu.be/m1zfyhmlyx0.
"...Ladies..."
the org has been exposed for abusing dmca laws to hunt down and punish anonymous faders/jw's.. https://pubcit.typepad.com/clpblog/2022/05/watch-tower-drops-its-effort-to-identify-a-dissident-blogger-based-on-spurious-copyright-claims.html.
if you talk to a jw, tell them how wisely the "faithful slave is looking after the masters belongings.
" (matt.
i keep hearing that the watchtower org is going to be around forever because of the many other religions that have been around a long time.
but i disagree because the wt is not like other religious cults.. the watchtower's breath of life is dependent on the last days that started in 1914. .
you can’t change 1914 without a death blow to the entire organization.. the watchtower's 2nd reason for staying alive, is it's continual urging that the life saving preaching work of warning people is the most important work ever.. but- it's very obvious to many, even the old ones that instead of speeding up the work------the work is slowing down to a drip.. comment by former believer; .
Rattigan - "...It looks like they don't have a writing dept anymore..."
Maybe some 50-year-old neckbearded conspiracy theorist with only a grade 12 education, working out of his mom's garage?
i want to create a new site to help people leaving the wts.. the idea is that it will be curated content of articles and videos on specific subjects such as how to fade, how to handle family, personal experiences of leaving, mistakes to avoid, plus practical life matters impacted by the wts such as how to create or rebuild a career, planning for retirement, getting counselling, making friends etc.... the idea is that it should be lots of voices to share the love and promote lots of people's channels so it becomes a more effective resource (hopefully there will always be something informative and appealing to the people visiting).. if you have a youtube channel that you would like featured, or maybe have some specific video or series that would suit, i'd be happy to include them.. likewise, if you have a subject you'd like to write about and can share some practical knowledge and guidance on, or have a life-story you'd like to share because your experience could benefit others, please let me know.. i bought a domain and setup some placeholder content:.
https://jw.watch.
please message me or post here if you have any questions or ideas..
Simon - "I don't think my fingers are always fully connected to my brain..."
I have that problem with my mouth.
It's not so bad, once you get used to the beatings.
i don't have the link but i am trying to post this, this is from a previous post on jwn.
watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc. dear brothers:.. we received your letter of december 17 in which you inquire about handling a situation involving a brother who has been guilty of serious violation of the law in the past.. you explained that you received information indicating that this brother ?committed several murders and crimes before his baptism.
you ask if law obligates some action on our part.
You gotta wonder just what the hairy blue fuck they were thinking when they...
a) ...formed this policy, and...
b) ...actually decided to put in in writing.
ivy hill congregation of jehovah's witnesses is currently suing the pa department of human services.
it requests "a declaration that its elders are entitled to" clergy privilege, or, in the alternative,.
to the extent that the clergyman privilege is determined to exclude its elders on the basis that they are "members of [a] religious organization[] in which members other than the leader thereof are deemed clergymen or ministers," the court declare the statute to be unconstitutional.
So, basically, the Org wants the court to exempt them from reporting child abuse.
Jeezus Phucking Kreist.
In what universe would anyone with half a brain think this would go well???