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  Would there, or would there not be, lawsuits if they took away the blood transfusion ban?

  by VerdadTJ2 in

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  i have heard or read, many times by many exjw's, that the org does not remove the blood transfusion ban because it would be crippled by the resulting lawsuits the minute that "new light" was made official.i am not a lawyer, but i would like to know what legal opinion lawyers have on that.on what legal basis would there be a lawsuit?

  "i am suing the watchtower because my relative died because of a rule they had but no longer have"?am i missing something?.

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  Vidiot

  NotFormer - “…they're now experiencing a warped version of the sunk cost fallacy…”

  IMO, the sunk cost fallacy is already pretty warped. 🤨
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  Re-activate me?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a knock at my door and i thought it was my take-away being delivered.. long story short, it was 2 elders calling to see me.

  i guess to re-activate me.

  once they said who they were i recognised them.

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  Vidiot

  I’d’ve thought any of ‘em’d be scared to knock on Punk’s door.

  😏
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  August issue is now up on JW.com

  by ozziepost in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just a heads up that the english version with the changed cover is now up on jw.com.. i haven’t yet read it but if any you have the time i’m looking forward to people’s insights.. in the meantime i must find a red 🍷.

  cheers,.

  ozzie (of the ‘is he still here?’ class ).

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  Vidiot

  “Now in courts you can just quote the scripture and tell that this practice of removing wrongdoers is directly mentioned in the Bible.”

  Exactly.

  The very same Bible with passages that condone genocide, the execution of children for sassing their parents, and the ownership of other human beings as property.

  Simple, really.
  
  
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  August issue is now up on JW.com

  by ozziepost in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just a heads up that the english version with the changed cover is now up on jw.com.. i haven’t yet read it but if any you have the time i’m looking forward to people’s insights.. in the meantime i must find a red 🍷.

  cheers,.

  ozzie (of the ‘is he still here?’ class ).

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  Vidiot

  “…if we notice a fellow Christian who shows such a disobedient spirit, we will make a personal decision not to associate with him…”

  Not “you may”…

  ...“we will”.

  “Personal decision”, my ass (not to mention the whole “we” thing, as if solidarity between the leadership and the rank-and-file were even possible at this point). Read between the lines, and there is virtually zero wiggle room.

  These aren’t reforms…

  …they’re just a slightly more creative way of reiterating the rules.
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  August issue is now up on JW.com

  by ozziepost in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just a heads up that the english version with the changed cover is now up on jw.com.. i haven’t yet read it but if any you have the time i’m looking forward to people’s insights.. in the meantime i must find a red 🍷.

  cheers,.

  ozzie (of the ‘is he still here?’ class ).

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  Vidiot

  Stephane - “… I think the point here is that it won't be enforced by the elders…”

  Yeah, right.

  
  

  “Youse had best make a ‘personal decision’ to see tings our way… it’d be a shame if some udders might be compelled to make a similar ‘personal decision’ regarding youse.”
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  Watchtower August leak: details from reddit user

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  from reddit.. a summary of changes: .

  we are all sinners, so we have to be reasonable how we punish sinners.

  if elders and congregation do not quickly help someone come to be reinstated they would be imitating satan the devil, not jehovah (yes that actually is what is said in the tagalog version in translation!

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  Vidiot

  And I’ve been thinking about this for a couple days, now.

  I figure that…

  a) …they decided that since the XJW community was aware of the alleged rewrites, they decided to shelve them and double down on the old version just as a “fuck you”, and/or…

  b) …they’re still delusional enough to think God’s got their back and they’re gonna come out on top, despite all the shit that’s been happening.
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  Pa. authorities charge 5 more in probe of child sex abuse among Jehovah's Witnesses

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/charges-probe-child-sexual-abuse-among-jehovahs-witnesses-pennsylvania/3600171/#:~:text=a%20pennsylvania%20grand%20jury%20investigating,that%20has%20identified%2014%20suspects.

  what to know.

  a pennsylvania grand jury investigating child sexual abuse among jehovah’s witnesses has charged another five people with raping or molesting children as young as 4 years old.. the indictments friday are the latest charges in an ongoing probe that has identified 14 suspects.. state attorney general michelle henry says that while the misconduct dates back years or even decades, “the trauma endures for these victims.”.

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  FFGhost - “…I know it's the longest of long shots, but I can't get rid of the gut feeling there is some connection between all these recent PA cases and Tony Morris' abrupt and complete disappearance…”

  Don't kid yourself.

  It ain’t that long a shot.
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  Greeting a person(who was removed from the congregation) at the Kingdom Hall now becomes a matter of conscience

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower—study edition | august 2024. help for those who are removed from the congregation.

  14 does what we have considered mean that we would completely ignore a person who has been removed from the congregation?

  not necessarily.

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  Vidiot

  “…In the past, we would not greet such a person…”

  A more accurate statement would be, “…In the past, you would be forbidden from greeting such a person…”
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  Pa. authorities charge 5 more in probe of child sex abuse among Jehovah's Witnesses

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/charges-probe-child-sexual-abuse-among-jehovahs-witnesses-pennsylvania/3600171/#:~:text=a%20pennsylvania%20grand%20jury%20investigating,that%20has%20identified%2014%20suspects.

  what to know.

  a pennsylvania grand jury investigating child sexual abuse among jehovah’s witnesses has charged another five people with raping or molesting children as young as 4 years old.. the indictments friday are the latest charges in an ongoing probe that has identified 14 suspects.. state attorney general michelle henry says that while the misconduct dates back years or even decades, “the trauma endures for these victims.”.

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  Vidiot

  This asshole pled guilty…

  …and witnesses (real ones) confirmed under oath that documents were indeed shredded under orders from higher up, and it’s all a matter of public record, now.

  This is why they’re hissyfitting about “negative” reports rather than “falsehoods”…

  …’cause there’s just too much smoke for there not to be any fire, and calling them “lies” makes them liars.
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  Big News: August English Watchtower released on servers

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  big news.

  just in from a friend who is fading.. disfellowshipping will no longer be a term used by jws.

  study article 35, paragraph 4 footnote says this:.

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  Vidiot

  So…

  …not only is it not called “disfellowshipping” anymore…

  …there’s a bunch of stuff that aren’t DFing removal-level offenses anymore…

  …the rare occasions it happens, it’s just for a few months…

  …and “marking” (and more importantly, “marking” talks) are no longer even a thing.

  Makes you wonder if all that passive resistance is actually having an impact.