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  Discussion involving my Dad & other long timers - Mood is definately different

  by Doubting Bro in

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  i've seen several posts relating to the mood among longtime jws here recently.

  i thought i would add to that collection and recount a discussion i recently had with my dad and a small group of folks about his age.

  quick background on the group:.

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  JeffT - "It must be really hard."

  I'm torn between a measure of sympathy and grim satisfaction.
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  New light on Blood- Rumor?

  by stuckinamovement in

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  there was recently a thread on the possibility of there being some "new light" forthcoming on the blood issue.. is this a confirmed rumor, or is it just wishful thinking?

  can anyone verify this?.

  siam.

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  Even money says that it'll appear like a loosening of restrictions at first glance, but will, upon closer inspection, be a tightening.

  The WTS may have an army of pro bono lawyers, but even they couldn't stem a nation-wide tide of class-action wrongful death lawsuits that would engulf them if they made any kind of official reversal of their position.
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  A timely 'booster shot' for JWs

  by Gregor in

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  the present turmoil in the middle east is sure to have the jws creaming themselves.

  biblical locales and symbols - egypt, israel, the red sea.

  potential war among nations with nukes.

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  james_woods - "...aren't they strangely silent on the middle east conflict as far as their "bible prophecy" is concerned?"

  Unlike most other apocalyptic millenialist Christian groups, physical armed conflict in the Middle East isn't featured as prominantly in WT eschatology (possibly a byproduct of their official pacifist stance), so JWs don't tend to get Rapture-happy about it.
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  Discussion involving my Dad & other long timers - Mood is definately different

  by Doubting Bro in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've seen several posts relating to the mood among longtime jws here recently.

  i thought i would add to that collection and recount a discussion i recently had with my dad and a small group of folks about his age.

  quick background on the group:.

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  stuckinamovement - "Change is in the wind."

  I can't shake the feeling that the changes ain't gonna smell pretty.
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  Witnesses involved in Multi Level Marketing

  by tresdecu in

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  i just ran across an old aquaintance who is a former missionary (along with his wife) - although i think they just went to serve in s.america on their own, not gilead endorsed.

  they live in the las vegas area now, and are promoting a new mlm company called 'kaching kaching' (look for it on youtube, pretty cheesy) wactching them on these videos saying things like "do you want a piece of the multi billion dollar pie???

  " just blows me away.. i can't help but wonder if they are even still active.

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  JWs are often very susceptible to MLMs.

  My Dad was.

  I was, briefly, too. It didn't take.
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  To all you apostates out there - aka failed JW's

  by donnye in

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  by opening this post, you are admitting that you are failures - well done!

  lol.

  i must say, i have had so much fun on this site - some real laugh out loud moments for my friends and i to enjoy.. no need to respond - i am busy pioneering from tomorrow, so will no longer have time on my hands to sit at my pc enjoying laughing at your pathetic comments.

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  You da man, Outlaw!
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  Discussion involving my Dad & other long timers - Mood is definately different

  by Doubting Bro in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've seen several posts relating to the mood among longtime jws here recently.

  i thought i would add to that collection and recount a discussion i recently had with my dad and a small group of folks about his age.

  quick background on the group:.

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  Vidiot

  Something just ocurred to me; if the worm is indeed turning, I wonder what the ratio of completely silent dissidents are to ones that feel brave enough to speak out, even if only in private.
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  Discussion involving my Dad & other long timers - Mood is definately different

  by Doubting Bro in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've seen several posts relating to the mood among longtime jws here recently.

  i thought i would add to that collection and recount a discussion i recently had with my dad and a small group of folks about his age.

  quick background on the group:.

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  Gayle - "The GB, as expressed and criticizing at the last Annual Meeting, are aware of many older/elderly ones expressing regrets."

  Yeah, I told my inactive-for-almost-a-decade-but-still-mentally-in-in-a-lot-of-ways wife this about a month ago; she was incredulous.
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  Discussion involving my Dad & other long timers - Mood is definately different

  by Doubting Bro in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've seen several posts relating to the mood among longtime jws here recently.

  i thought i would add to that collection and recount a discussion i recently had with my dad and a small group of folks about his age.

  quick background on the group:.

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  donuthole - "Take a look at the chatter coming down from the leadership. They gnash their teeth at how some of the old timers are actually encouraging younger ones not to make the same mistakes they did and prepare for a future by going to college. In response the leadership grows more controlling, more hardline and orders that any elder who has a child in college will have to be critically looked at to see if they are still able to serve in the congregation. These orders come down and the elders become even more disenchanted at the clamping down and respond by withdrawing and stepping aside, shrinking the pool of elders in an organization that is already starved for local leadership."

  The velvet glove has fully come off the iron fist. Whenever that happens, it takes a regime change to make things better; reform is all but impossible.

  I talk about this here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/205377/1/Somethings-been-on-my-mind

  Would you mind perusing the thread and posting your thoughts there?
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  Discussion involving my Dad & other long timers - Mood is definately different

  by Doubting Bro in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've seen several posts relating to the mood among longtime jws here recently.

  i thought i would add to that collection and recount a discussion i recently had with my dad and a small group of folks about his age.

  quick background on the group:.

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  sir82 - "Something's got to give. The older generation is dying off, and the kids can't be bothered to 'reach out'. Within a decade there will be leadership vacuum so fierce it will dwarf the Catholics' 'priest shortage' the WT likes to gloat over so much."

  Reminds me of the story about a group of elders who allegedly contacted a DFed XJW to see if they could convince him to pursue reinstatement with the ultimate goal of eldership - due to the shortage.

  Maybe this is the reason for maintaining the two-witness rule with regards to pedophiles; they're having to scrape the bottom of the barrel more and more.

  "Winners" who gloat inevitably see their "victory" taken from them.

  kimbo - "It is less than five years away."

  What is? The WT's collapse? A full-on retreat to the alleged bunker complex upstate? The fifth dentist caving to peer pressure and finally recommending Trident, too?