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  Would Watchtower Ever Risk Setting Another Date

  by Number 6 in

  1. watchtower
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  there was a 50 year gap between the failed dates of 1925 and 1975.. memories fade, people die, and who cares what was said 50 years ago.. most jw's now in the religion werent there when 1975 was a thing.

  even my mother who was baptized in 1974 who i do remember speaking about it back in the day, can barely remember what the fuss was about.

  for active jw's who are doing all there studying online now, its practically impossible to find any wt contemporary reference to 1975.. i read recently (sorry i cant source it right now) that at the time, even watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking.

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  Vanderhoven7 - "Actually, they did set another date for Armageddon... prior to the year 2000."

  Damn, that's right.

  I'd forgotten about that.
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  Would Watchtower Ever Risk Setting Another Date

  by Number 6 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a 50 year gap between the failed dates of 1925 and 1975.. memories fade, people die, and who cares what was said 50 years ago.. most jw's now in the religion werent there when 1975 was a thing.

  even my mother who was baptized in 1974 who i do remember speaking about it back in the day, can barely remember what the fuss was about.

  for active jw's who are doing all there studying online now, its practically impossible to find any wt contemporary reference to 1975.. i read recently (sorry i cant source it right now) that at the time, even watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking.

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  JWGoneBad - "...here's what he actually said, if you can believe it: 'The events unfolding around us are making clearer than ever that we're living in the final part of the last days... undoubtedly the final part of the final part of the last days... shortly before the last day of the last days'..."

  LOL!...

  ..."The final second of the last minute of the eleventh hour of the culminating day of the closing week of the penultimate month..."

  Like I said the other day, it's super-hard to not suspect that the rest of the GB must know he looks and sounds ridonculous, and they deliberately put him on as some sort of doofy-ass litmus test...

  ...the guy can't help but further alienate the "lukewarm" (albeit in the funniest way imaginable), and any remaining loyalists who can drink the Lett-flavored Kool-aid and seriously ask "please sir, can I have some more?" are in for life.
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  Would Watchtower Ever Risk Setting Another Date

  by Number 6 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a 50 year gap between the failed dates of 1925 and 1975.. memories fade, people die, and who cares what was said 50 years ago.. most jw's now in the religion werent there when 1975 was a thing.

  even my mother who was baptized in 1974 who i do remember speaking about it back in the day, can barely remember what the fuss was about.

  for active jw's who are doing all there studying online now, its practically impossible to find any wt contemporary reference to 1975.. i read recently (sorry i cant source it right now) that at the time, even watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking.

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  Number 6 - "...I read recently (sorry I cant source it right now) that at the time, even Watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking..."

  Ray Franz said as much in Crisis of Conscience.

  Typical Wall Street-style business mindset...

  ...the membership is a resource first, and flesh-and-blood people a distant second.
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  Black Lives Matter—Do You Agree With Their Philosophy?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i agree with people who say all lives matter.

  i think blm is a racist group.

  if white people pushed an agenda saying white lives matter, some people would have a conniption..

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  "Do you agree with their philosophy?"

  I agree with all philosophies.

  Even the ones that conflict.

  Especially the ones that conflict, in fact.

  
  
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  Would Watchtower Ever Risk Setting Another Date

  by Number 6 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a 50 year gap between the failed dates of 1925 and 1975.. memories fade, people die, and who cares what was said 50 years ago.. most jw's now in the religion werent there when 1975 was a thing.

  even my mother who was baptized in 1974 who i do remember speaking about it back in the day, can barely remember what the fuss was about.

  for active jw's who are doing all there studying online now, its practically impossible to find any wt contemporary reference to 1975.. i read recently (sorry i cant source it right now) that at the time, even watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking.

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  phoenixrising - "...seeing Lett going off the rails when Covid started..."

  Video link?
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  Would Watchtower Ever Risk Setting Another Date

  by Number 6 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a 50 year gap between the failed dates of 1925 and 1975.. memories fade, people die, and who cares what was said 50 years ago.. most jw's now in the religion werent there when 1975 was a thing.

  even my mother who was baptized in 1974 who i do remember speaking about it back in the day, can barely remember what the fuss was about.

  for active jw's who are doing all there studying online now, its practically impossible to find any wt contemporary reference to 1975.. i read recently (sorry i cant source it right now) that at the time, even watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking.

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  Funny thing about apocalyptic end-time groups...

  ...historically they kinda have to occasionally date-set to drum up zeal amongst the membership.

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  Problem with the WTS is that by now, they've done it so many times that the tactic is long past its sell-by date...

  ...trying it this late in the game would undermine their credibility more than produce the desired result.
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  CO'S "encouraging" letter to circuit

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
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  the point of the letter was how many are feeling disappointed these days.. no circuit assembly, convention, how we can't fellowship at the k.h.

  disappointed we might have had a love one die, etc etc.

  he then goes on to write about how disappointed jehovah must have felt when his first human creation rebelled.

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  slimboyfat - "...What can they do? 'If you don’t donate more then we’re going to sell your Assembly Hall and local Kingdom Hall'?"

  Oh, to be a fly on the wall at that conversation...
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  terrified but waking up, child abuse, suicide etc.

  by anon1028 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  im new to this forum, i dont know where else to post my story, sorry if im wrong for posting this on this subject.

  as i begin to wake up from being in the org i thought id introduce myself to this forum with how i was raised in the org..., ive been beginning to look at everyones stories from being raised as one and how they left, and i find comfort in knowing im not alone, so maybe another young person like me will find the same comfort reading my story.

  as you can tell by my username, i am posting this on an anonymous account because of fear of what the elders would do to me and my parents if they found out who i was.

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  All the recent stories about the WTS increasingly doubling-down on its ruthless and draconian policies simply confirm something to me...

  ...that on some level - even if they're not consciously aware of it - they're feeling increasingly threatened and anxious about the Org's survival.

  Authoritarian regimes in decline never improve or reform.

  They squeeze tighter.

  And eventually - more often than not because they keep squeezing tighter - they die.
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  Insighful advice or mere speculation?

  by BoogerMan in

  1. social
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  i'm off to the supermarket to get some bumf.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeypy6oo0sq.

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  "Insightful advice or mere speculation?"

  Like madness and brilliance, the two do occasionally overlap.
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  ExJws Should Know Better Than To Just Accept Things And Follow The Leader

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i would think that exjws would exercise more critical thinking than not.

  now we are thrust in this “ world” and take sides on social issues and politics.. just because our government leaders say something it doesn’t mean it’s right.

  just because the majority of the news media tells us how we should think, it doesn’t mean we have to follow.

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  @ Phizzy...

  The "Lazy Class"...

  ...that's good.