whew!
i was just reading an earlier thread on disciplining kids.
exhuasting!
Although we have a cat..."Crybaby"...he's an antisocial pain in the @ss. He wants nothing to do with us and has taken to living between the garage and front yard. Guess I'm a dog person...my pack:
Jonesy--Australian shepherd/Blue heeler, she's getting old now but she is a wonderful outdoor watchdog.
Chico--He's my black chihuahua. Loveable, loyal and not at all yappy, nervous or "shaky."
RECON--He's a Jack Russel Terrorist. Fearless. Lot a dog in a little body. Psychotically protective.
when i was a kid....i used to look at the wt illustrations of paradise conditions and would day dream about life in the new system....i later used this same technique (shame on me) to brain wash bible students.
however...as i grew up lol (apparently!
) the illustrations changed....and became more modern.
Hi Beck,
I know what you mean about the illustrations. Whacked. Don't know about you gals...but can you imagine Paradise = ugly floral dresses and heels? Weird.
That's just wrong! I feel sorry for her GYN!!!
we are a non-jw family with 2 kids under 5 thinking about hiring a jw live in nanny.
she is in her 30's, active jw.
we all have talked about mutual respect for each others religions, and all agreed to a hands off policy.
Fred,
Ever hear the expression, "wolves in sheeps clothing?" My JW mom has attempted to infest (yes that's the word I meant) my kids with her bs...behind my back AND after REPEATED requests not to. Solution: she has little to no unsupervised time with my kids. She also watches her non JW next door neighbors daughter after school...you guessed it...she can't resist making her judgmental/sarcastic remarks about "pagans" and "so called Christians" and "The WORLD" you see what I mean? She will not miss an opportunity no matter how small or inappropriate to "witness." The JW's may "mean well" after all they think they MUST witness. However, this mindset allows them (with a clear conscience) to have absolutely NO respect for other people's beliefs and develop UNHEALTHY BOUNDARIES. Your children's spiritual well being is equally important as their physical safety...listen to what those here who were once children raised in "the truth" have to say about the psychological effects.
something has always puzzled me about the jw's.
one word...history.
on one hand they can (and do) cite every infraction/mistake/screw up of every other denomination since the beginning of time but refuse to look at their own.
Something has always puzzled me about the JW's. One word...HISTORY. On one hand they can (and do) cite every infraction/mistake/screw up of every other denomination since the beginning of time BUT refuse to look at their own.
How is it possible to refer to others as "pagan" and NOT acknowledge their own extremly PAGAN history and doctrines. Didn't C.T. Russell practice: numerology, pyramidology, astrology and phreneology? Isn't this the "foundation" of many core beliefs, such as 1914? From what I've read, Russell's intention was to create a hybrid of paganism and Christianity...complete with occultic symbols (winged solar disk/pagan Egyptian sun god) on the original "Studies in the Scriptures." How could this be divinely inspired? I asked my new JW mom about this. I honestly believe I know more about the origins of the JWs than she does. How is this possible??? How can most protestants ex: Lutherans know more about a man living in the 1400's than the JW's know of a man who lived just one hundred years ago??? If the "Truth" is the Truth...wouldn't it be important to educate new converts of the "Truth's" founder?
Does this strike anyone else of being just a tad 1984/Orwellian or what? If their history is so obviously insignificant to them...why is everyone elses history so important?
eu has noticed that a number of persons making up this forum are guilty of showing disrespect to jehovah's witnesses.
some refer to jws as 'hovahs and others talk about kingdumb hells, all the time professing to follow christ.. some may justify their rude behavior by saying that jws themselves can be rude.
even if the charge is true, and eu is not really convinced that it is, why cannot ex-jws rise above the fray?
Eu,
Ok...but I do have a question. Prior to my mom becomming a JW, I had never heard so many "labels." I'm telling you, I had to learn a whole new vocabulary to understand who (in her mind) was "worthy" of her association, friendship and acknowledgement. If mutual respect is something we all should strive for, wouldn't it help not to call people "apostates?" If someone from my church decided I didn't measure up, dissagreed or whatever and felt justified in calling me an "apostate" who would be the immature and weak one?
eu has noticed that a number of persons making up this forum are guilty of showing disrespect to jehovah's witnesses.
some refer to jws as 'hovahs and others talk about kingdumb hells, all the time professing to follow christ.. some may justify their rude behavior by saying that jws themselves can be rude.
even if the charge is true, and eu is not really convinced that it is, why cannot ex-jws rise above the fray?
Never been a JW, so maybe you will not respect my opinion but from my outsider-looking-in perspective...respect, is earned. People generally GET what they GIVE. If a person's religious orientation is one of pious superiority, with some percieved divine approval(of course), see themselves as "special" label/judge others "inferior" ex: so-called Christians, Christiandom, Babylon, pagan, worldlies, bad-associations, DA'd, DF'd, Satan's follower's/tools...whatever... people will generally return the favor. Just my observation.
i mean in addition to being a pedophile paradise of course.. if you tell a country (mexico) that you are a cultural organization, don't use the bible, or sing, or pray, and you do it for money, then what are you?
i mean you hate all cultures of "the world" so you lied about being a cultural organization, you aren't a religion or you wouldn't have denied your god, your bible, and your prayers.
i guess when you consider the deals made in bulgaria, and the rapid hiding of resources and then campaigning to change the votes in france you could qualify as a political organization.
...delusional.
first my standard "disclaimer" i'm not a jw, never been a jw...just trying to understand my jw mom.
ok...now i'd like to share with you guys that i've been listening to my mom ranting about the catholics for months now.
she doesn't miss any opportunity (no matter how small or inappropriate) to "witness" to me.
First my standard "disclaimer" I'm not a JW, never been a JW...just trying to understand my JW mom.
Ok...now I'd like to share with you guys that I've been listening to my mom RANTING about the Catholics for MONTHS now. She doesn't miss any opportunity (no matter how small or inappropriate) to "witness" to me. I usually agree with her that ANY pedophile is a sick bastard that deserves to be persecuted to the fullest extent of the law. She wholeheartedly AGREES and thinks the Catholic church is "evil" for attempting to handle their own affairs. HELLO!!! How is moving Father sicko to the next parrish any different than allowing Brother likes-em-young to go door knocking??? She is often mesmerized by news related stories...and if ABC,NBC,CBS,MSNBC, or whatever is broadcasting a story about corruption in the Catholic church, she "uses" this information to reinforce the "horrible state of the world." I've NEVER heard her say that the media is satan's "tool" UNLESS it is something that makes the JW's look bad. She about had a fit when the news mentioned the JW connection regarding the Bryant and Longo cases...now Dateline. PERSECUTION!!! Talk about wanting it both ways.
"how dare you you should be ashamed of your selves because you know better i was raised for 30 years in the truth and all though i am no longer an atcive witness i canted belive what i just saw on tv to speak out like you did with half truths and outright lies you were never truly jehovah witnesses and never had real love for him.
Good grief...these people's grammar/sentence structure is as pathetic as their reasoning. U of Dub I suppose.
