Angus: Do you agree that a survivor should NEVER have to make an allegation in front of the abuser?
Dumplin
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Geoffrey Jackson - Royal Commission Live Hearing Now!
by LostinJapan in.
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
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Dumplin
Look - we all know everyone needs a release for their stress. What really used to stress me out when i was a kid was when my uncle used to sit on my chest and blow into my nose.
And think about it - nuns are typically women, so they are empty inside according to the WT - plus they're Catholic - so they already got two strikes against them when they step up to the plate. Trying to put a restriction on their masturbatory privileges will just make them feel paralyzed and will lead to greater problems.
I think the real focus should be on 'drunk women'. When you have a masturbation exacerbation problem - the nuns are just going to turn to alcohol and that will ruin it for the rest of us because there is nothing worse than a drunk nun (or woman for that matter) in a pub. They get really loud and high pitched screechy sounding like minnie mouse. I say let the nuns masturbate.
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ONE pedophile and TWO victims per Congregation
by Marvin Shilmer in"sadly, though, most [pedophiles] go unpunished by authorities today.
in australia, for example, it has been estimated that only 10 percent of offenders are prosecuted, and few are convicted.
other lands have had a similar record.
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Dumplin
and I also wanted to say thanks for your work and research into this Marvin! -
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ONE pedophile and TWO victims per Congregation
by Marvin Shilmer in"sadly, though, most [pedophiles] go unpunished by authorities today.
in australia, for example, it has been estimated that only 10 percent of offenders are prosecuted, and few are convicted.
other lands have had a similar record.
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Dumplin
148,040 victims over the period of 1975-2014. one molester/cong...holySH*T Batman!!!
Before following your research into this, Marvin, I had in the back of my mind - MAYBE 100k but no more than 110k victims (just 'shootin' from the hip') but 148,040 victims over the period of 1975-2014 - Unbelievable!!Wt makes it sound like pedophilia is their top priority in that 2002 article. But the truth is they have excerbated the problem with their cover up policies. Thankfully, the ARC has taken a stand now and said: "YOUNG LIVES MATTER"!
Child abuse is a matter that should be addressed by governments in every country all over the world. The ball is rolling now and over time it will have an effect. The shallow discourse of WT and others like them is being overshadowed by public demand now.
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Preparing for Friday's Feeding Frenzy
by Esse quam videri inmany hundreds and perhaps thousands of people, worldwide, are eagerly waiting for the questioning of geoffrey jackson at the australian royal commission on institutional response to child abuse.
this is the day that many have hungered for.
finally, a member of the governing body being questioned and compelled to make full disclosure, to the best of his knowledge, the very best of his knowledge.
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Dumplin
I'm really, really hoping he'll ID every JW he knows, no matter what his rank or status in the organization, whether in the past or present, whom he has known to be a pedophile.
ok.........nevermind.
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My two great hopes regarding Geoffrey Jackson's RC testimony
by Esse quam videri inmy greatest hope is that when geoffrey was a youngun' that his momma taught him to 'tell the truth'.. if geoffrey does not tell the truth, my second great hope is that his momma 'wallups him, but good'.. here's hoping he doesn't 'crawfish' on the witness stand.. crawfish :
a] to cheat, decieve, or otherwise do a person wrong b] go back on what you said previously
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Dumplin
ditto Billy.... can't trust these "nobles".
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We are on the stage for all mankind, why not urge all JW to witness it?
by James Mixon ini would be proud to be on the stage to give a good witness to the world.. instead there is zip about the procedures in australia for the rf, they are clueless.. you would think the gb would be so proud for it's members to watch how they.
defend the truth.
correct me if i'am wrong but is there any thing on jw.org to indicate.
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Dumplin
the girl next door: "Jehovah just got spanked."
Romans 13:1
Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God... They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoerSo that's according to Bible... God uses these authorities to punish "wrongdoers". And I say "more power to them! It's about time!" Let the spankings RESUME!
I don't see it as God being on trial here. It's those who claim to speak for Him.
These men are WRONGDOERS and need to be SPANKED. and I'm sure that's what you meant.gotta go to work now....
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Geoffrey Jackson. Seems he will be compelled to front up.
by umbertoecho inpray for brother jackson of the governing body!.
in todays news from australia it appears that, despite his previous declination to appear when invited, justice mcclellan from the australian royal commission on child sex abuse will officially summon brother geoffrey jackson to the stand after all.. ..... the commission was due to conclude its hearings into the jehovahs witnesses on wednesday but justice mcclellan said he will now call geoffrey jackson, a senior member of the churchs governing body in new york who is currently in australia, to appear next week.. .
source.
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Dumplin
Of course, I would be the last person on earth to EVER impute wrong motives to a GB member. (he chuckles) But TWO governing body members that don't show up when summoned??? (Lösch's refusal to comply and now Jackson's).
So NOW something is starting to smell fishy to judiciary systems worldwide. This goes on record for all time. But whatever happens, it's looking bad for WT.
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Do you remember the 15 minute break at the Sun. meeting?
by 3rdgen ina poster on another thread reminded me of when there was a 15 min.
break between the talk and the wt study on sundays.
the break was supposed to be to allow jw's time to drive their bible studys home from the talk.
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Dumplin
Ha! i just revisited this thread again...feeling nostalgic (rum-induced).
I was thinking how witnesses didn't seem to incriminate each other so much back then (late 60s/early70s). In the 90's you had to very "quietly" make your exit between meetings, but the friends back then were standing outside during the break, watched you crank your car and leave, and gave you the benefit of the doubt if you left... I don't know - I was just a teen, but that's how I saw it. The belt got tighter and tighter in the 80s.
Also, I remember after getting my first car at 16, I would always be 20 minutes early to the meetings (like they recommended), and therefore I got to park right up by the front door - which was a sign that told everyone else that I was first to the meeting. What an SR i was! But one dark, rainy night, the PO got there late and parked behind me perpendicular to my back bumper. Well, after the meeting, I ran out in the rain, jumped in, backed up and smashed his brand new 1968 Impala door good! I slumped back into the hall, confessed my sins, apologized, and said my insurance will pay for the damage. (but it was HIS fault for not parking in a designated spot - I guess he thought he could park anywhere b/c he was PO) But to my surprise, my insurance wasn't good enough for him...he lectured me about how his car was now devalued by having "repair" work done on it. He did a real good job of making an idealistic young teenager feel puny and small. He eventually became a "giant" in the org. but i feel he held that incident against me always. Many years later, he gave me a bad recommendation to my new KH elders. He must've been materialistic is all I can figure. I got my first lesson in pretentiousness.
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Geoffrey Jackson. Seems he will be compelled to front up.
by umbertoecho inpray for brother jackson of the governing body!.
in todays news from australia it appears that, despite his previous declination to appear when invited, justice mcclellan from the australian royal commission on child sex abuse will officially summon brother geoffrey jackson to the stand after all.. ..... the commission was due to conclude its hearings into the jehovahs witnesses on wednesday but justice mcclellan said he will now call geoffrey jackson, a senior member of the churchs governing body in new york who is currently in australia, to appear next week.. .
source.
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Dumplin
@possum We don"t have a 5th amendment. Whew! I was concerned about that, too!
@possum WT needs some serious chemo. THAT (hopefully) is what is going to do the damage.
@ umbertoecho: Perhaps he is a nice man. Yet, that is not sufficient to allow for him to deliberately claim ignorance....Someone posted a fantastic post about how the JW religion behaves and how it should not toward those who are molesters....
1) there were many no doubt who thought Jim Jones was a nice man. Angus knows this - so no worries.
2) I would very much like to read that fantastic post. My JW son stated he disagrees w/ JW child safeguarding policies but still won't follow through.
@ umbertoecho It came to the Justice's attention that they had been mislead as to the role and functions of Mr Jackson. They had accepted the illness of his father for a while, but they had also been misled about his status
Exactly!! Mislead TWICE!! As the old saying goes: "...shame on me!" - the commission must be saying that amongst themselves now... so I'm not really concerned that Geoffrey will be called out on the carpet.
Hey! umbertoecho! I am grateful for the good research you do and the links...keep up the good work!
