You are right Pirata - The actions of Rutherford at that time were so very wrong - and "unchristian like." At least it seems that way to me what history sources I can did up. The current WTS does not have a very pretty history behind itself and to be calling itself the ONLY channel of communication from God is what I term pure blasphemy!
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No Governing Body in 1925
by VM44 infrom the june 15, 1938 watchtower, p. 185: "in the beginning of the first hebrew month the watchtower of march 1, 1925 published the article "the birth of the nation," meaning that the kingdom had begun to function.
an editorial committee, humanly provided for, then was supposed to control the publication of the watchtower, and the majority of that committee strenuously objected to the publication of that article "the birth of the nation," but, by the lord's grace it was published and that really marked the beginning of the end of the editorial committee, indicating that the lord himself is running his organization.".
there was no governing body, judge rutherford was the watchtower president making the decisions and running the organization.. .
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New Member - Dan Edmund - Introducing Myself - Preaching in the Philippines
by Dan Edmund inhi to all the brothers and sisters and friends who are using this site.
this is just to introduce myself.
my name is dan edmund, and am a fellow witness from australia.
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saltyoldlady
Welcome Dan - Will enjoy reading your book. The poster for it beautiful - is it representative of the countryside in the Phillipines? Hills seemed too steep to me for that - but I loved it.
It is true many of us here have left the WTS including myself but I still love God with all my heart and try diligently to devote my energies and life to His service. There were many memories from my WTS days that I still treasure as well - things are never all black and white. I can imagine the field service there that you described. And it would indeed be a joy. I think that is why many become missionaries and go to foreign lands - to find humble people still living the simple life - they are much more receptive to learning what the Bible contains then those of us with so much technology and diversion.
One of my favorite field service partners came from the Philippines herself right after World War II - they suffered terribly from that war and she often told me about their customs and ways. You are right, they are a very hospitable and warm people. We have a congregation serving that language group right in my neighborhood - one of four that meet there. Many years later she did missionary service in Peru and it was equally joyful there.
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Looks like great fun! Are you taking orders?
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No Governing Body in 1925
by VM44 infrom the june 15, 1938 watchtower, p. 185: "in the beginning of the first hebrew month the watchtower of march 1, 1925 published the article "the birth of the nation," meaning that the kingdom had begun to function.
an editorial committee, humanly provided for, then was supposed to control the publication of the watchtower, and the majority of that committee strenuously objected to the publication of that article "the birth of the nation," but, by the lord's grace it was published and that really marked the beginning of the end of the editorial committee, indicating that the lord himself is running his organization.".
there was no governing body, judge rutherford was the watchtower president making the decisions and running the organization.. .
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VM44 - You have a great point here - I had never stopped to think about it before - how could FDS be the GB and have been appointed in 1919 if there wasn't even a GB back in those days! And furthermore if the nation of Spiritual Israel which is supposedly what the 144,000 represent didn't get birthed until 1925 it really messes up that 1919 pillar they try to stand upon. I see all kinds of humorous confusion coming to the surface with this lovely piece of history you have highlighted for us.
In trying to explain how Rutherford came up with the idea the FDS was selected in 1919 recently to a friend - another poster here - Don Cameron's book and Ed Gruss material too highlighted the fact they didn't even come up with that idea til 1928 - and then a new one I hadn't realized in addition - the idea of Jesus Christ's "invisible presence" starting in 1914 instead of the old 1874 didn't get printed til 1943 which means it was probably an idea of Fred Franz's and not Rutherford's per se - Rutherford having died in 1942.
Cameron has a delightful pic showing Jesus Christ knocking at the door (from 1914 until 1943) - 29 years before they answered the knock and acknowledged his presence and arrival in 1914. And if they got their appointment as the FDS in 1919 how come it took until 1928 to find out? And how do you get appointed before you have even been hatched yet? Oh what shifting sands they stand upon!
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Captivers of a Concept on free PDF download
by saltyoldlady inwhile i firmly believe in rewarding an author with financial revenue for his efforts and i myself purchased his book with joy - those of you that may have limited budgets or have been postponing the reading of this classic did you realize it is readily available on the net as a free pdf format - i found it under [edited].
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Yeah - turns out they want $49.95 up front to download any of their supposedly free PDF download's - what a gimmick! Go direct to Cameron's site - $7 is not too much for a download of this material. It is priceless and magnificently designed to aid any who might be wanting to convince friends and family still inside the organization.
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Your Favorite Kingdom Song (versions)
by pirata inwhat were your favorite kingdom song (versions) when you were a jw?.
albums.
5 stars.
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We thank you Jehovah ----------- with all the verses from the old Songbook has always brought intense emotion and reverence to my heart. And contrary to Godrulz's opinion I found many songs written by Jehovah's Witnesses to be inspiring and to reflect true love for Jehovah and His Son, Jesus Christ.
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Captivers of a Concept on free PDF download
by saltyoldlady inwhile i firmly believe in rewarding an author with financial revenue for his efforts and i myself purchased his book with joy - those of you that may have limited budgets or have been postponing the reading of this classic did you realize it is readily available on the net as a free pdf format - i found it under [edited].
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Thank you for setting me straight on this - is there someway we can remove this post from the archives. I in no way want to deprive Don Cameron of his rightful due or be a party to such. I think his book the very best on the subject, period. Salty
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Captivers of a Concept on free PDF download
by saltyoldlady inwhile i firmly believe in rewarding an author with financial revenue for his efforts and i myself purchased his book with joy - those of you that may have limited budgets or have been postponing the reading of this classic did you realize it is readily available on the net as a free pdf format - i found it under [edited].
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Report it? You mean this is done without his permission? I assumed it was by permission. Am I wrong? Are all these downloads "hijacked?"
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A mascot for my posting name
by saltyoldlady inhave suggested they name the calico cat recently found on governor island new york - think it swam from new jersey side - matted with seaweed, etc.
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(in my honor - lol - as a true cat lover)..
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saltyoldlady
Have suggested they name the calico cat recently found on Governor Island New York - think it swam from New Jersey side - matted with seaweed, etc. - with my posting name - Salty Old Lady. (In my honor - lol - as a true cat lover).
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Captivers of a Concept on free PDF download
by saltyoldlady inwhile i firmly believe in rewarding an author with financial revenue for his efforts and i myself purchased his book with joy - those of you that may have limited budgets or have been postponing the reading of this classic did you realize it is readily available on the net as a free pdf format - i found it under [edited].
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saltyoldlady
While I firmly believe in rewarding an author with financial revenue for his efforts and I myself purchased his book with joy - those of you that may have limited budgets or have been postponing the reading of this Classic did you realize it is readily available on the net as a free PDF format - I found it under [edited]