Posts by iamwhoiam

Thanks leaving. At the recent assembly, the DO said that the society has never claimed to be inspired. Spirit-directed I know I've heard and continue to hear all the time.

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Inspired?

by iamwhoiam in

does anyone know if the wts ever said in print that they were inspired?.

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Does anyone know if the WTS ever said in print that they were inspired?

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What initial did make you have doubts about the "truth"? Was it apostasy?

by Joey Jo-Jo in

this question is different from what made you leave.. as for me, i wanted to take one step further, to be more involved in the organization, but i had some very old small doubts, about other religions, so i started my liberal study on religion, i read books from other churchs to reffute them, but in fact created more doubts about the org..

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Mr Freeze: That was me too. It just didnt make sense, so I started reading stuff on my own in secret. Come to find out, I'm not mentally diseased afterall. ;)

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WTS meet Penn State, Penn State meet WTS

by iamwhoiam in

if child abuse affects football...its on the news.... http://abcnews.go.com/us/penn-state-scandal-paterno-speak-tomorrow/story?id=14894985.

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If child abuse affects football...its on the news...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/penn-state-scandal-paterno-speak-tomorrow/story?id=14894985

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If I hear one more person say...

by iamwhoiam in

"even if we don't agree with new light, we should ask ourselves, where else would we go?

without this organization, we would never have learned the basic bible truths we have today.".

this was stated twice in commenting and once by our conductor during our wt study yesterday.

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Hiding Questioner: The breakdown didnt last very long, I had a hard time with it about the first 3 to 6 months..even made me physically ill. But once you take the whole red pill and not just half, there is no going back and/or holding on to existing beliefs. This is why I choose not to talk about my personal views to my family. They are happy and are up in years..the org is all they have..and I won't take it away from them. Ignorance is bliss in this case. I am only in my low to mid 30s (my age sounds like a weather report)..so it is a bit easier for me.

I guess the key thing when it comes to recovering from being indoctrinated over a long period of time, is to be willing to accept what is....which is a very hard thing to do. To admit that you were wrong and be able to start over again mentally from a whole different perspective on life. There is an initial shock (emotional breakdown), but eventually you rebuild yourself over time.

If you are still in the org yet out mentally, it can still be a challenge since everyone you see/associate with in your congregation believes something contrary to what you believe; not to mention walking on eggshells hoping you won't slip up and say something. Sometimes that can make you feel like your crazy since your thinking against the majority. You just have to keep reminding yourself of who you are and that its not a "sin" to think for yourself. No one has the right to tell you how to think or feel...always remember that. I personally am only in for family reasons, but that probably won't last much longer.

I was watching the wizard of oz the other night..and it reminded me of my journey. You start down the path (yellow brick road) and you begin to use feelings/things you never really had to use before (brain, heart, courage). You put them all together in order to face your fear (questioning the wizard) and you then find out everything you believed in was a lie (a man behind the curtain). You feel the onset of shock (a break down), then mad (reality of being lied to), despondent (don't know what to think now), and then finally you become ok with thinking on your own (freedom).

In short, your now walking down the never ending path of enlightenment..or whatever you choose to call it.

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If I hear one more person say...

by iamwhoiam in

"even if we don't agree with new light, we should ask ourselves, where else would we go?

without this organization, we would never have learned the basic bible truths we have today.".

this was stated twice in commenting and once by our conductor during our wt study yesterday.

iamwhoiam

Leaving: No, I havent read that book yet. I would like to though. I've been mentally out for a long time, 5 years, maybe more. I just stay in for family. I don't even think I can do that anymore. I read the book, Tao Te Ching at the beginning of that time period, it was a real eye opener, along with the book Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds. After being awakened to reality, as well as experiencing a nervous breakdown from having the wool ripped from my eyes, I secretly explored everything else. So now you know how much pain im causing myself by doing something I don't believe in (eg. service, being an MS).

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If I hear one more person say...

by iamwhoiam in

"even if we don't agree with new light, we should ask ourselves, where else would we go?

without this organization, we would never have learned the basic bible truths we have today.".

this was stated twice in commenting and once by our conductor during our wt study yesterday.

iamwhoiam

"Even if we don't agree with new light, we should ask ourselves, where else would we go? Without this organization, we would never have learned the basic bible truths we have today."

This was stated twice in commenting and once by our conductor during our WT study yesterday. Our COBE also commented that, "we should never have the attitude of disagreement in regards to new light." Instead, let's have an excited attitude. Let's ask ourselves, what new light can we look forward too at this assembly? What is something new we can learn?"

Kill me now. The org are master brain washers. Now when I see it in action, I become ill. Playing with people's lives is so sick.

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When is it time to fully open up to a spouse

by ihadnoidea in

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recently my very active jw wife has been more critical of the wt and some of their stances.

she has particularly been critical of topics that hit home to some of the things going on in lives of our families.

i am still going through the motions as an active servant, but i am mentally out.

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The more you listen to her talk without judgement, the more she will open up to you about her doubts. I would wait and tell her after there is no doubt in your mind she doesnt want anything to do with the org. I had a few people talk to me about their doubts on more than one occasion, but then they just say, "Jehovah has nothing but dust to work with" or "It's still his chosen organization." Me being an MS who is also mentally out am glad I didn't take the risk of blowing it. I also stay in only for family.