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  I am new here too!

  by NVR2L8 in

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  for a long while i have been coming to this site on a daily basis and i think it is time to introduce myself.

  here we go: my parents learned the truth when i was 4 and i don't have childhood memories of how life was before they converted.

  i was a model jw child, although quite mischievous at school.

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  NVR2L8

  Welcome to the forum! One of many healing steps to freedom. This forum is a great place to vent and gain support and help you heal.

  I am sorry about your wife... always sad when two paths diverge.

  Nevertheless, one must learn to be true to the self. It is not selfish to follow where your heart leads, even if that is not what the JWs teach.

  I realize others have said it ahead of me, but Crisis of Conscience really helps if you at all have doubts about the Society TM being human-run.

  Now that was new light!

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  Johnny the Bethelite - Homophobic?

  by laverite in

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  did anyone hear the part from the recording of the last 6 screens conference call where johnny talked about a brother being "effeminate?

  " johnny mentioned that he refers to this brother as "sister.

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  Jehovah's Witnesses have a rule about homophobia, don't they? One must be homophobic to be a member in good standing...!???

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  I need a show of hands: who believes the Bible and to what extent?

  by Terry in

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  i'll start off.. i don't believe anything is divine about bible writings.

  i believe there may be some marginal history although not much.

  i think alot of folk tales and regional myths are contained in the old testament.

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  Hi Terry,

  I don't believe anything is divine about bible writings. I believe there may be some marginal history although not much. I think alot of folk tales and regional myths are contained in the Old Testament.

  Well, since you asked, I don't believe the Bible in the same way that the JWs taught it. I bought the whole JW propaganda because I was "born in" but when I left via disfellowshipping in 2000, I began to re-educate myself.

  I visited many different kinds of churches...let's see if I can remember... I visited New Age, Unity and Unitarian. They were inclusive and helped me to a point. I could see by then that the JWs were out to lunch. I visited Baptist, Christian Alliance, but they were rigid and way too similar to the JWs. I have a friend who is First Nations (Shoshone) and I like the way they are in tune with nature.

  One may wish to examine how much "conditioning" goes on in a religion before rushing into becoming a member. Personally, I see over and over again how dangerously divisive so-called "moderate" religion can be.

  Most importantly, I do believe what the bible says about a time when people would not adhere to religion. Rather, each person would be a law to themselves. (Romans 2:14) By that, I mean their conscience would be their guide; not some priest, pastor, elder, imam, bishop, etc. No more religion running the show, asking for money, lobbying for more power, and demanding more freedom to frighten and enslave. Sounds healthy to me. I embrace this idealist concept. I believe in being true to myself.

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  Do yo know your options - Jan KM 2011 Answers?

  by Sharpie in

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  hey i was wondering if anyone has the answers for this weeks km part do you know your options.

  questions are-.

  what is the main reason why jehovah witnesses refuse blood tranfusions .

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  This is a test, right?

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  Verifiable Former Bethelite Willing to Answer questions

  by Uzzah in

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  i am a former active poster here, former elder, former bethelite and pretty much known by people on the xjw boards since the mid 90's.

  gawd that makes me sound old.. i notice that a great deal of uproar is being made by allegations of a hide in the closet alleged bethelite.

  to counter the damage caused by this claim, i am happy to address any questions people may have about bethel, protocol, etc.. i was at the canada branch for 11 years, worked in multiple areas including the legal department, service desk and writing dept.

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  Hi Uzzah,

  I helped write the frickin 1995 Watchtower article about the "Generation Change" and was privvy to all the discussions surrounding that change. I knew of many of the child abuse cases, cover ups and mishandlings. Yet when I said I wanted to leave, they all but drove me to the gate.

  Seems to me the WT thinks they are above reproach, no matter how much covering up of their corruption. This is the fallacy of most religions. Each one thinks they are the only right religion and can do no wrong. Especially true of the Jehovah's Witnesses. They commit perjury via "Theocratic Warfare" thinking that Jehovah is helping them "trick" their religious opponents. They believe that Jehovah would want it that way.

  I believe one day their actions will catch up to them and they will be held accountable by a power greater than themselves or even their false god.

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  I'm a very happy witness of Jehovah

  by ELPIRO in

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  i kinda figured i would read many negative things concerning jw, i was not disapointed............ i say if you ae not happy not just in the jw, but anywhere, life it too short move on.. .

  i myself am a wittness, an anointed witnes .

  there is no shame is sharing yr hope and i am varry happy with mine.

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  ELPIRO,

  Welcome to the forum.

  I was taught after leaving the jws that Jehovah is a lower-vibrating entity that thrives and feeds on fear. JWs are a religion of fear. Their members are taught to fear Jehovah, fear the devil, fear the demons, fear disfellowshipped ones, fear the world, fear everything! Jehovah is not the Almighty at all, but a "lower" power-seeking demi-god.

  Can you disprove that? I know what the Bible says about Jehovah being the Almighty, and quite frankly, I don't believe it anymore.

  And the question about where else can we go? Well, just about anywhere that doesn't teach their followers to be in constant fear is preferable to the Jehovah's Witnesses beliefs.

  Sending you love,

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  Can't help myself! Have to share this pic! LOL!!!!

  by coffee_black in

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  this is bailey 2 1/2 (the big sister) and zoey who is almost 4 months old, my youngest granddaughters.

  is zoey sending a secret message?

  look closely!

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  awwww...the "flip-off" (only with a different finger)

  Coming from one so young is very cute.

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  This is perhaps the funniest thing you will ever see on this forum

  by Hobo Ken in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phvc_jv6vte.

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  A brilliant mind that made this one up!

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  Was I threatened by a student?

  by laverite in

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  well, the new semester has just started.

  as some of you know, i'm a college professor.

  i was in my large lecture course yesterday (a couple hundred students).

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  I am glad you reported the incident. I feel strongly about the safety issue. I'm glad to hear your administrators validated the incident.

  In an airport, if one were to talk like that student, one would be pulled aside for security reasons.

  It would be interesting if the class could have a discussion about such a comment.

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  Why do you believe the bible? or not?

  by AiAi in

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  2. bible

  when i began questioning the religion i used the bible and their own statements to prove them wrong.

  now, recently, i have began to realise that maybe the only reason i put any faith in the bible is because i was always raised to.. so my question is, after leaving the watchtower, what was it that made you decide the bible was worthy of belief?.

  i am not asking about any continuing belief in god or disbelief, i am more conscerned about the first step (to me) right now of the bible itself.

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  I believe parts of the Bible, but not the way the JWs teach it. I have discovered my own "truths" from the scriptures that make a lot more sense to me than what the jws preached.

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