Mary wrote:
How about: "...The Organization is passing away and so its desire......."
Love it!
satinka
i got into one of those extended conversations with relatives i haven't spoken to in ages.
it was full of things unsaid and careful avoidance of saying too much about the organization.
lots of nice social hypocrisy, so nobody gets upset in the fairy-tale world of watchtower-ism.. is there any discreet, tactful, inoffensive way to tell them, "the organization is dying"?
Mary wrote:
How about: "...The Organization is passing away and so its desire......."
Love it!
satinka
he was walking with such a slump, dragging his feet, carrying a jacket, magazines barely visible just hanging from his fingertips.
if body language has any validity to it, this man was deeply discouraged and depressed.
i remember that slump too.
Awww... I feel sorry for the elderly ones who have been waiting ... and waiting ... and waiting for the "New World" to arrive. I know a bro who declined taking a company pension with the railway, where he worked all his life. When his workmates asked him why, he laughed and said, "I won't need it. The New Order is coming any day!"
Well, now he walks with that same dejected look that you describe. He and his wife have had to sell their house because they can no longer afford it. He has no company pension and collects a meager Canada Pension which keeps a person in a state of poverty.
And no New Order in sight.
I wonder if he has figured it out yet... he has been seriously lied to.
satinka
a jw corpse 'speaks'.
http://alwaysonasaturday.blogspot.com/2009/08/jw-meets-undignified-end.html.
bangalore.
Very sad story. I posted a comment on the blog.
satinka
estimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.
that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.
still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.
Ask Monsanto.
i have someone in my family that is a jw and she has engaged me in conversation.
for the record, i consider myself an evangelical christian.
after some debate and research, i backed out of a verse by verse debate and switched the convo to get on some common ground, asking if she believe the bible was the inspired word of god.
It seems to me that people never willingly leave their religiously brainwashed state. The depth of their conditioning is astounding.
Their own soul will lead them out if it is part of their journey to do so in this lifetime.
I look back years later and see that it was time for me to leave. I see that now. No one could have told me that at the time. I had to figure it out for myself.
satinka
i just want to know how friends feel about the word "apostate" when being used to refer to them?, do you feel relegated?..
I wear the name proudly...as a badge of honor!
satinka
with every passing magazine and assembly, i ask myself, why?.
why does the governing body care?
the diatribes against college, against the internet and i-phones and vampire movies and afterschool sports and social networks and everything new, interesting or useful in the world, why?
They are in agony only if they have a conscience.
satinka
Welcome Johny!
satinka
i am a new member to this forum, but i have visited for years.
i am curious to know why my name would remain as an active member, even though i haven't attended services for the past (i guess) 4 years or longer.
i am still in contact with a few members off and on, but i am really focusing on pursuing interest that i've put off for a long time (attending college).
The elders appointed by gawd lost track of your status, stormy!
satinka
any of us who were jw's fell for one kind of fraud.
(faithful and discreet slave/governing body).
we were perfectly sincere.
Crop circles – geometric designs of crushed or knocked-over crops created in a field.
My son and his friends made several near Lethbridge once. The elders told us to keep it quiet and not go to the authorities. Incredible amount of $$$ gets spent on these investigations!
http://www.noufors.com/crop_circles.html (scroll down to Lethbridge)
Sudbury, Ontario, STAR, 4 September 1991, page A4
Crop circles defy any explanation
LETHBRIDGE, Alta. (CP) - The mystery is growing as peculiar circle patterns continue to turn up in southern Alberta crop fields with no apparent cause.
Two new sites of crop circles were discovered near the city of Lethbridge over the weekend.
One site was discovered near an animal disease research institute about five kilometres west of the city Saturday.
Three circles were then found on a farm Sunday, with connecting pathways, about three kilometres southeast of the site discovered Saturday.
Farmer Jenny Skinner said a man combining a wheat field she leases from the city came upon the circles - two of them four metres in diameter, and a third, two-metre circle - all connected by narrow trails.
"It makes me nervous," Skinner said Tuesday. "I don't think I want to be alone out here at night any more. We've farmed this land since 1960 and we've never seen anything like this."
"Sometimes you'll find a spot where a deer has lain down, and you can see the footprints, but that's completely different."
That makes four crop-circle sites which have turned up in southern Alberta in the last few weeks. The first, on Aug. 21, was in a wheat field just north of the Lethbridge city limit.
Gordon Kijek, director of a UFO study group based in Edmonton, investigated the north Lethbridge site and a subsequent finding a few days later of larger circles near Okotoks, a community about 20 kilometres south of Calgary.
He said samples of grain and earth taken from the first two sites are being tested by Alberta Agriculture and a UFO research facility in Winnipeg.
He said several people who visited the north Lethbridge site reported headaches afterward, but added he didn't experience such problems.
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Courtesy of my son and his JW friends. I'm soooo proud'a my boy!
satinka