Orphan Annie
My sincere condolances to you.
Sometimes it helps just to know that people care.
Please let us know how you are doing.
Love,
satinka
on 4/6, the poster orphan annie posted about her experiences with jw's and her ill husband.
unfortunately, her husband died monday, and she is feeling very sad.
i just wanted to make others aware of it, so that we can encourage her and give her some much needed support during this rough time.. her original thread is here.
Orphan Annie
My sincere condolances to you.
Sometimes it helps just to know that people care.
Please let us know how you are doing.
Love,
satinka
ever hear of this?
does ny approve?.
jehovahs witness drug rehab.
I'd say it is not a JW approved site.
JW elders would deny that drug rehabilitation is needed. They would quote the scripture in Timothy that states "All scriptures inspired of gawd and beneficial for setting things straight." Anyone who has got in the "wrong" company and got involved with drugs would be "encouraged" to talk to an elder about the "secret sin."
Then the drug user would promptly be disfellowshipped.
Elders' first concern is keeping the congregation "clean" rather than actually helping someone in need.
Can you feel the love?
satinka
on this forum, i have carefully read most of the experiences of those who left the jw religion, i have even read experiences that have dated back to 2001, i have read the different circumstances surrounding their exits and what ensued upon leaving.
for the majority, i observed they are better remainning in the religion than leaving.
what benefit is there to strain family relationship because you want to be free?, please tell me, of what value is that freedom?,.
The pain of staying in was greater than the pain of getting out.
In the end, I'm glad I left.
satinka
here on this forum there are so many sinners, many here are doing things that will bring god's wrath upon themselves.
consider yourself if you in some aspect fit the description in romans 1:28-32:.
and just as they did not approve of holding god in accurate knowledge, god gave them up to a disapproved mental state, to do the things not fitting, filled as they were with all unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, badness, being full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malicious disposition, being whisperers, backbiters, haters of god, insolent, haughty, self-assuming, inventors of injurious things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, false to agreements, having no natural affection, merciless.
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i got into one of those extended conversations with relatives i haven't spoken to in ages.
it was full of things unsaid and careful avoidance of saying too much about the organization.
lots of nice social hypocrisy, so nobody gets upset in the fairy-tale world of watchtower-ism.. is there any discreet, tactful, inoffensive way to tell them, "the organization is dying"?
Mary wrote:
How about: "...The Organization is passing away and so its desire......."
Love it!
satinka
he was walking with such a slump, dragging his feet, carrying a jacket, magazines barely visible just hanging from his fingertips.
if body language has any validity to it, this man was deeply discouraged and depressed.
i remember that slump too.
Awww... I feel sorry for the elderly ones who have been waiting ... and waiting ... and waiting for the "New World" to arrive. I know a bro who declined taking a company pension with the railway, where he worked all his life. When his workmates asked him why, he laughed and said, "I won't need it. The New Order is coming any day!"
Well, now he walks with that same dejected look that you describe. He and his wife have had to sell their house because they can no longer afford it. He has no company pension and collects a meager Canada Pension which keeps a person in a state of poverty.
And no New Order in sight.
I wonder if he has figured it out yet... he has been seriously lied to.
satinka
a jw corpse 'speaks'.
http://alwaysonasaturday.blogspot.com/2009/08/jw-meets-undignified-end.html.
bangalore.
Very sad story. I posted a comment on the blog.
satinka
estimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.
that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.
still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.
Ask Monsanto.
i have someone in my family that is a jw and she has engaged me in conversation.
for the record, i consider myself an evangelical christian.
after some debate and research, i backed out of a verse by verse debate and switched the convo to get on some common ground, asking if she believe the bible was the inspired word of god.
It seems to me that people never willingly leave their religiously brainwashed state. The depth of their conditioning is astounding.
Their own soul will lead them out if it is part of their journey to do so in this lifetime.
I look back years later and see that it was time for me to leave. I see that now. No one could have told me that at the time. I had to figure it out for myself.
satinka
i just want to know how friends feel about the word "apostate" when being used to refer to them?, do you feel relegated?..
I wear the name proudly...as a badge of honor!
satinka