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  New May Awake! Am I being unreasonable or does this sound crazy!?

  by toweragent in

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  my friends usually walked me home after dark.

  but one evening i was so tired that i decided to call a taxi.

  the driver didnt take me home.

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  What will kids say when commenting at meetings

  by darthfader in

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  i was just mailed this today -- thought it was funny.

  (please forgive me if this is a dupe - i tried to search for similar jokes on this site).. .

  oops too much tv time watching those commercials!.

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  Watching my 4 year old grand daughter comment at the meeting made me realize that the only difference between our comments was that she repeated words someone else whispered in her ear while I read mine...
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  Ok I need some advice on how to decline an elder's appointment....

  by suavojr in

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  2. friends

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  in the last 4 months my eyes have been opened to ttatt, my biggest issue is that the elders have been grooming me to appoint me as an elder.

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  Grow a beard...
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  1973 versus 2013 (40 years later)... How much confidence have J-Dubs lost in the Slave's "End-Time" estimations?

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  back in 1973, when i was just a pre-teen, i remember that meetings in general were chock full of persecution talks, great tribulation talks and armageddon talks.

  so much so, that there was a hightened sense of anticipation that the end was really just a few years away.

  most j-dubs really believed, without any doubt, that freddy's estimation about armageddon in 1975 was a certainty (give or take a few months... not years).

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  Calebs A

  I was a teenager in the mid 60's and JWs were convinced that specific events wouldn't happen such as the 1976 Olympic Games or that we would not see year 2000. My parents allowed me to leave High School at 16 years old because a good education was valueless since we would be in the new system in a few years. Some were absolutely conviced that their children wouldn't have time to start school...Today we no longer hear them speak with the same certainty...Now they are not serving for a date...at least that what they claim.
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  Do you think those at the top realise that it's their fault - suicide as a result of being disfellowshipped?

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been stunned to hear of two suicides in our area recently.. this adds to the other 3 that i have known of from the past.. the two recent suicides resulted from 1-the person being gay & hearing a horrific talk at the kingdom hall & 2-the person with problems who was disfelloshipped & then took his life the next week.. it astonished me that jw's in general don't rebel against this sort of thing.

  it's an appalling lack of support which leads people to feel distressed, abandoned & unloved.

  how the witnesses in the locality can just sail on without giving the cruelty of these measures serious though is beyond me.

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  Steve2 - I'm glad you mentioned the WT cautioned their elders about people threatening to take their life during a judicial commitee...and there lies the problem. Most people who commit suicide do not "advertize" their intentions and those who do usually don't follow through or are attempting to get help. Others use the threat of suicide as black mail...So how do elders know the person they are about to isolate from everyone he loves not going to end it all?
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  Whats your opinion of the WTS. apologizing now for its past wrongful teachings ?

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  something happened recently by the wts.

  that doesn't rarely often and that is the wts.

  executive editors apologizing for the organization's past mistakes and proclamations.

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  Their admission is like a murderer admiting he killed someone but then attempts to justify his murder rid the world of a worthless shady individual.
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  Will you attend the Memorial this year? Why? Why not?

  by Open mind in

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  No, I don't want to reconnect to any JWs and have the elders believe that I am now open to talk to them...I asked them to leave me alone and they have for over 2 years...I like it this way.
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  Do you think those at the top realise that it's their fault - suicide as a result of being disfellowshipped?

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been stunned to hear of two suicides in our area recently.. this adds to the other 3 that i have known of from the past.. the two recent suicides resulted from 1-the person being gay & hearing a horrific talk at the kingdom hall & 2-the person with problems who was disfelloshipped & then took his life the next week.. it astonished me that jw's in general don't rebel against this sort of thing.

  it's an appalling lack of support which leads people to feel distressed, abandoned & unloved.

  how the witnesses in the locality can just sail on without giving the cruelty of these measures serious though is beyond me.

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  Steve2

  I agree with you when you say suicides cannot be solely attributed to religion. When people are fragile, losing a close friend, getting divorced, losing a job or bullying can bring an individual's despair to an intolerable level when others can deal with the same issues in a more rational way. Still, I surely wouldn't want to be part of a judicial commitee who disfellowshipped someone who takes his life shortly after...There is no way elders can predict how someone will react to such a cruel punishment shunning is...but telling yourself you had no way of knowing is of little comfort when the person is gone.
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  Do you think those at the top realise that it's their fault - suicide as a result of being disfellowshipped?

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been stunned to hear of two suicides in our area recently.. this adds to the other 3 that i have known of from the past.. the two recent suicides resulted from 1-the person being gay & hearing a horrific talk at the kingdom hall & 2-the person with problems who was disfelloshipped & then took his life the next week.. it astonished me that jw's in general don't rebel against this sort of thing.

  it's an appalling lack of support which leads people to feel distressed, abandoned & unloved.

  how the witnesses in the locality can just sail on without giving the cruelty of these measures serious though is beyond me.

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  Nope - look at what happens when you leave Jehovah and refuse the lovingly help from his organization...goes to show that Satan's world can only lead erring one to despair...
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  My mom unfriended me on Facebook...

  by dazed but not confused in

  1. social
  2. relationships

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  Dazed...if your mom seeks other's opionion on Ray Franz, chances are you'll be unfriended a second time! In the eyes of old-timers JWs, Ray Franz was the epitomy of apostates...he was blamed for some of the flaky teachings resulting for apostates infiltrating the WT society...