Raised in the cult I was never involved in any kind of charity until I left. Now I participate in several fund raisers for humanitarian causes and for the first time in my life I experienced the true joy of giving.
Posts by NVR2L8
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10Which helps more? The trolley dollies or this guy....
by Slidin Fast inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aubtadi7zuy.
i am not usually impressed by human interest stories but this guy does more good in five minutes, does more to promote humanity in 5 minutes than a bus load of sterile literature carts and cartons of propaganda.. what say you, can one person make difference?
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I Let Go Of Faith Ten years Ago Today
by cofty inafter more than 30 years as a jw and 9 as a born-again christian i finally let go of faith 10 years ago today.... it was on boxing day 2004 that news of the asian tsunami put the final nail in the coffin of my relationship with god.
since that time i have listened attentively to every possible argument in defense of faith; there has never been a single moment that i have felt any discomfort with my decision.. life without god has been liberating.
no longer do i have to defend the indefensible.
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My story is similar to yours Cofty. I no longer believe in anything that requires blind faith. I know this life is all we have and I am at peace with the fact that it will all end when I die. Today my life is less complicated and I enjoy being the master of my destiny. -
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Status of people shunned before rule change?
by rebel8 inback in the early 1980s, some congregations were "disassociating" unbaptized people who committed alleged disfellowshipping offenses and weren't repentant.
it was announced from the platform in the same way, "so and so is disassociated," followed by 1 scripture about shunning and another about the specific sin that person had committed.
the ritual shunning was exactly the same as dfing.
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The only announcement I ever heard was so and so is no longer an unbaptized publisher. There was no official shunning but of course you would limit your association to congregation meetings with such people. -
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One of these days I'm going to get a new look
by stillin ini mean, just look at me!
i'm disgusting!
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I also changed mine to one that reflects how I felt when I was trapped in. -
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Public Speaker Training stifled by wt, it's new 'school' programme.
by prologos inthe 2015 school setup, discussed this week eliminates the last "school talk" by brothers in favour of 'demonstartions" (a la sisters conversations) of family worship sessions and the like.. is this not a shift away from encouraging bright young ones to hone their (under-estimated) speaker skills ---to.
now using more of the die-hard, org-bound, --even elders in indoctrination demonstrations?.
do you see this trend?
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After the book study was combined with the midweek meeting I felt like meetings were similar to speed dating...five minutes and you move on to another subject. There was no time to meditate on or cover in depth the information. Assemblies were just the same. It all became meaningless. -
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Did you know about the organ transplant ban when you were a believer?
by Apognophos inback when i was learning ttatt, i was shocked to read on jwfacts about the organ transplant ban from 1967 to 1980. this was a large piece of evidence for me that the society could not be god's organization.
growing up as an earnest witness, and living near the headquarters, i knew a lot of the organization's embarrassing history, and it didn't faze me, but i'd never heard of this ban before, and it shocked me.
it's gotten me wondering why no one i know ever talks about it, when it must have affected many witnesses during that time (or were they getting transplants on the sly?
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I knew about it but I didn't worry because I thought it was unlikely that I would ever need an organ transplant. Just goes to say my critical thinking was totally turned off and I didn't consider the implications for those requiring a transplant to survive. -
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Do do do do do you remember..
by tim hooper indoes anyone else recall the big chart that hung at the front of every kingdom hall?.
it would be about 5 feet x 4 feet.
on the side of the chart, vertically listed, were the months of the year.
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I used to cut the numbers and paste them on the board. Black digits indicated the publishers met the required quota and red digits meant the congregation was short. In these days publishers were required to do 10 hours, 6 back calls, place 12 mags and conduct one study. That board was at the front of the hall during the week night meeting but it was stored away for the Sunday meeting if I remember well.
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0 to 100 Real Quick? How many meetings can I miss w/o being harassed?
by Yondaime inmissed two in a row and got no grief.
should i keep the streak going and see what happens?.
by the way, i made my college's basketball pratice squad, to help workout the team during scrimmages .
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I stopped suddenly a few months after telling the elders I no longer wanted to serve in the congregation. My wife continues to go. It took 10 months for the first contact from the congregation to happen in the form of an unannounced visit from 2 elders. I didn't invite them in and told them to leave me alone. It's been 4 years...not a peep from anyone. Only the occasional hello from so and so when my wife returns from her meeting. I think the key is to be directed and firm.
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OMG! The world is worse than ever! This system can't last! Violence is increasing! Wait, what's that you say?
by sir82 inif you read jw literature, the world has been progressively getting "worse and worse" since 1914.. is that really the case?.
for a more rational analysis, look here:.
a few highlights:.
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....are we to expect the "peace and security" call from the nations....lol
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What is truth?
by Heisenberg inwell, i have been lurking on this site for several months and i recently decided to join as a member.
i have made several observations and would like to make a few comments.. first, i am perplexed by the attitude of many on this site that are either former or active (but apostate) jws.
they seem to have a strong hatred for the wts and also for rank and file jws.
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Heisenber, welcome!
This site is called JW.net....not muslim or catholic.net so obviously it attract the attention of those involved with the WT cult. The great thing about this site is you don't have to agree with everything others post. As an example, I totally disagree with the previous post from Vanderhoven 7 but at the same time I respect his opinion. I feel no urge to silence him, call him names such as mentally diseased or assume that he supports Satan...do you get my drift? JW is a high control cult that converts people by isolating them from family and friends who are used by Satan when they attempt to hinder their spiritual progress in their "truth". It starts with no longer having time for those outside the cult because the convert will no longer celebrate pagan holidays, then he is busy with studying, attending meetings and eventually preaching...Then the dedication to the organization binds him to obey all rules. Any transgression may result in shunning where he would be isolated from his new "family". In my case, I was raised a JW from the age of 3 and lived faithfully until my early 50s. I served the congregation and had parts at some assemblies. Then I caught the WT lying while doing research in their publications for a public talk. My mother' words resonated in my head: who's the father of the lie? I did more research and found more misquoted secular sources to support WT claims that have since been replaced by new light...I came to the realization that I had been fooled and had no one to turn to without risking to be labeled an apostate. So I kept silent and stopped going to the hall. My wife is still active and the only contact from the "friends" come in the form of salutations through her. My own wife doesn't want to know why I no longer believe...Only a cult can have such a hold on people.
Heisenberg to me all religion are cults but I can only talk about the one that kept me prisoner for most of my life. I have enjoyed 4 years of freedom where I went from existing to living.