I was a MS for years as was my father before me. My dad was an uneducated man and learned how to read while studying with the JW. He was a mechanic and became friends with the DO and CO because he fixed their cars at a time when they used their own. He was mostly in charge of the KH maintenance or magazine counter. I on the other hand was a very good public speaker and versed in two languages and sign language. I gave public talks, conducted a book study as a MS going to a different group almost every week as a fill in. I have been in several dramas at DC and was interviewed at CA because of my dad's connection with the DO and CO. Still I never became an elder. Something held me back. Last year I reconnected with an ex jw who was an elder in my congregation and he told me I had a reputation of being a skirt chasser...as a teenager I was good friends with many good looking older pioneer girls either because I was helping them learning a foreign language or just to keep them company when they missed their families they had left to move where the need is great. Even the CO's wife would hug and kiss me when they visited...I guess this bothered the elders despite the fact that I married at 19 and am still married to the same wife 40 plus years later. Just before my fade I worked the sound console at the DC and at the assembly hall. I was scheduled as a visiting speaker the week I quit as a MS. I had expected being named an elder at the previous CO's visit but it didn't happen and I am glad because it gave me an extra insensitive to pursue my research about the JW cult. A year later I just didn't return to the KH after the DC.
Posts by NVR2L8
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30How many times were you told, "You Just Don't Qualify Yet to be an Elder"
by John Aquila inyou think it's the holy spirit that appoints the elders, at least that's what new jw males are told.
the culture within the organization dictates to all young male jehovah's witnesses that unless you are an elder, you will not get the sultry, passionate- brunette, the voluptuous, curvaceous,- blond, or the seductive, erotic, red headed-vamp..
so unaware of the social forces that are shaping your mind, you succumb to the dictum issued by the governing body to conform to the structure already in place- if you want to be successful.
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Prayer - The ultimate act of stupidity
by Doltologist inprayer is the act of saying something to someone that doesn't exist.
above all else, we need to respect ourselves for, if we don't, we are not capable of respecting others..
thirdly, bow to no one for if they had any respect for you, they wouldn't ask you to bow..
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After I woke up to TTATT I started hating prayers said at meals by JW relatives visiting us. Especially the part where they thank God for the shelter and food, when I am the one who pays for the mortgage and the grocery bill. If God is the provider of my material wealth why is he not providing for poor faithful brothers in 3rd world countries? Why me? I hear stories where fathers lost their children because they didn't have the few hundred dollars to pay for treatment at the hospital. Where's God for them? With the JW, God is given credit for every trivial positive situation but anything bad happening to you is blamed on Satan's old system and imperfection....that's a win-win for JW indoctrination. -
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Vacation Time: You want me to use my personal vacation to attend the D.C.? Something i feel is a load of B.S.and waste of my precious time
by goingthruthemotions inso you all know that my wife is still blinded....i am well awake and so are our son's.
so she is expecting me to use my vacation time from work to attend the d.c. waste 3 days of dribble from the cult.
what of waste of time....yet i will do it to keep the peace.
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Heaven that's where I used to go...there's a series of 3 or 4 week ends in a row. I'm glad that my only visit to the Aud is to play hockey with my non-JW buddies.
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Final destination for old light.
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Are You "Technically" Still A Jehovah's Witness?
by minimus ineven if you don't regard yourself as a practicing jw, some may view you simply as inactive, a lost sheep, etc.. if you were baptized but not disfellowshipped or disassociated, you may still be a jw---right?
your thoughts please..
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I haven't been to a meeting in 5 years and I broke off contact by telling the elders I wanted to be left alone when they visited me more than a year I stopped going suddenly. I'm sure that I am still on their radar since my wife is active but they are all staying clear of me except for one brother and when we spend time together he never brings up JW stuff...strange indeed. So technically I still am a JW but I am not telling anyone.
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How old were you? What was the happiest year of your life?
by Esse quam videri inwhat year comes to your mind as the happiest?
maybe some special place you lived, being with special people, an unforgettable period that made it your happiest.
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Regardless of the years spent in the cult, I have had a pretty happy life. I am married to the love of my life and except for the 2 years following my exit from the cult we have had a happy marriage even though she is still a JW. When I reached 50 I started taking a long look at what I had accomplished and at how I wanted to spend the rest of my life. At that time I was starting to awaken. I had lost my dad and shortly after became a grandfather which made it more evident that I had grown old in this old system. How could that be possible when my whole life I was led to believe that this wouldn't happen, that dad and mom with our whole family would survive Armageddon and enter the new system together. Some research allowed me to find the truth about the JW cult and for 4 years I knew I was trapped in a cult and I had to find a way out. Those were the most unhappy days of my life. I was depressed knowing that I had wasted so much of my life in useless cult activities and that every day I stayed in was another day wasted. I even contemplated suicide. I decided to accept every business travel opportunity by my employer. It allowed me to have time on my own away from the meetings and cult activities. I realized I was much happier and less depressed when I stayed away from the JW activities. Business travel was also a perfect excuse to step away from my congregation responsibilities and create more distance. Then the new light on the generation pushed me over the edge and I never returned to the meetings after the district convention in 2010. Today I can say that I am happier than ever despite the irritants caused by my close family still being trapped in the cult. I experience moments of intense happiness in the smallest things such as sitting by the river to read the Saturday newspaper or things I never had time to do when I devoted that time in the door to door work. I use to spend time working and fixing things at the k-hall while neglecting things that needed attention at home...now I can take all the time I need to maintain my cars or ride my motorcycle...things I love to do but never had time to. I am a few years away from retirement and the travel opportunities offered by my work are making that time very enjoyable. I am not sure if my wife will ever wake up so I am not letting this getting in the way of my happiness.
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Was it worth it?
by John Aquila infor those of you who left family and friends and had to start over from scratch just to get out of the organization, was it worth it?.
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When we became JW in the late 50's we lost our whole family and friends because they didn't want to join us in the truth...and because we replaced them by our new brothers and sisters. We no longer had time for our relatives and no longer could get together for celebrations like birthdays and other holidays. When you leave the cult, you're reversing this process and I have started reconnecting with relatives I hadn't had contact with for decades. They have received me with open arms and there's a lot of tears of happiness when we meet. They never stopped loving me...it's the cult that got between us. Unlike my JW "friends" who never called or inquired on my sudden disappearing from the Kingdom Hall, my relatives and new friends keep in touch on a regular basis. I have absolutely no regrets leaving the cult and I find it hard to have a conversation with my family that is still in because all they have to talk about is related to the cult. -
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California Supreme Court Case - S226656
by Gayle inhttp://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/maincasescreen.cfm?dist=0&doc_id=2109889&doc_no=s226656&search=party&start=1&query_partylastnameororg=watchtower bible and tract.
started 5/27/2015.
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NVR2L8
If you followed the case, Candace Conti asked for a symbolic sum of $1440.00 for damages. Anything over that amount would be a gain. But mostly she wanted to force the JW to change their policy on child abuse so no other child had to go through the same thing she experienced.
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What do we have to say to ourselves about this video...we are being exposed..
by jdub1991 inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdvt_gyq-ls&feature=youtu.be
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Where Is Mouthy?
by Bangalore init has been a long time since mouthy posted here.i hope she is fine.is anybody in touch with her?.
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I just spoke to her on the phone today and she told me she is having a wonderful week. She just turned 88 and one of her daughters organized a party for her where a whole bunch of people showed up. She said that the tellers had a cake for her at her last visit at the bank. She is forgetting a lot of things and she didn't know who I was, but after telling her details about the time we met she remembered. She said she can't log in to JWN any more but she still has the internet.