My mom came for a visit for the first time since I stopped going to the meetings 2 years ago. She thinks I no longer go to the KHall because I am depressed and grieving the death of several close friends in a relatively short time. I told her I was depressed for a short time after my dad died, but that I was fine now. She said I should have consulted a doctor and that there is nothing wrong taking medication for depression! Typical JW reasoning to explain why someone would leave the "truth" - mental ilness...I couldn't bring myself to tell her that since I stopped going to the meetings I have never been happier, that I now have a life.
Posts by NVR2L8
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29Rumors-that circulated about you ( when you left.)
by Pitchess Co-Gen init seems they can't even let you get disfellowshipped in peace !
i've been out for three years now, and i heard that i'm a whack job, i'm gay ( i'm married with a son ), that i lied on a judicial committee, and these rumors were started by my ex-fiance and her meddling congregation.
when i heard about these things i called my p.o or c.o.t.b.e ( mind you i'm disfellowshipped when i called ) .
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WT Q&A Study Method
by leaving_quietly infor years, i've never understood why we read a paragraph, ask a question, and then recite what we just read in the paragraph, and at the wt study, it's an hour long period of severe boredom because, well, how many times can we recite the same stuff over and over?
even new ones who come in have been baffled at this method of teaching.
i have a theory, though.. however, i just read the "what is sacred service?
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NVR2L8
The CO that visited the congregation just before I left made a comment that sounded alarm bells: "If a false statement is repeated often enough, in time people end up believing it is the truth" ...I asked myself where do I hear the same thing over and over again? Where do I accept everything said as the truth without question? Yes at the KHall! Toward the end I could pretty much predict what the speaker would say next, what scripture he would use, what the scripture said and how it would be applied....that what 50 years of repetition does to you...but not once did I question the truthfulness of what I was hearing....
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When did the religion become a cult?
by Hermano inam i wrong in believing it was rutherford who took the religion from strange to cult?
under russell they had some strange beliefs but strange beliefs don't make a cult.
wasn't it rutherford who established and reinforced the hierarchichal structure and demanded absolute loyalty?.
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NVR2L8
Several years ago someone I called on in service told me he wanted to study the bible with me but without WT publications...I then realized that I couldn't and that in fact I always had been studying the WT doctrines contained in their books and magazines...I was helpless without the formulated answers provided by the WTS found in the "reasoning" book...on the other hand this man used only the scriptures to show me what he believed in...I never returned to visit him as he had well predicted because I was affraid to be confronted by an "apostate"...Today I realize that reading the bible without the "help" of the WT publications there is no governing body in Jerusalem, no organization, no restrictions on the medical use of blood, that Jesus asked his true followers to take care of the material needs (not just spiritual) of the less fortunate...None of this is taugh by the JWs and this make them a cult, followers of men rather than followers of Christ.
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All of it...I worked for a Japaneese company for over 25 years so I had the opportunity to try many different foods...many I couldn't even identify!
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So when will I stop hating the organization?
by loosie ini have tried to stop hating the organization and all it stands for, but in 7 years i've had to luck in doing so.
i am going to therapy to work this out, but i still hate the wt borg.
i have heard it is bad for you to hate something for so long.
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NVR2L8
Next Friday will mark my 2 year anniversary of not going to a single meeting. I went to the DC and on my way home I told my wife I had attended my last meeting. Since then, everytime I drive by a KHall I can't resist giving it the "middle-finger" salute. This may sound or look childish but it's a true expression of my disguss for the WTS and how it sucks away the life of people I dearly love who are prisoners of this evil cult.
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When did the religion become a cult?
by Hermano inam i wrong in believing it was rutherford who took the religion from strange to cult?
under russell they had some strange beliefs but strange beliefs don't make a cult.
wasn't it rutherford who established and reinforced the hierarchichal structure and demanded absolute loyalty?.
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NVR2L8
From the start with Russell - his followers were called "russellites"...and they saw him as the faithful and discreet slave from the bible. The presidents that followed him attempted to hide this fact by replacing the visible leader by a figurative slave class and more recently a governing body appointed by Christ. So, no JWs do not follow a man...they follow 9 men...who have power over their lives.
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Any new light on windows in the KH
by jam inremodeling is being done on the kh in my area.. friends have come to me inquiring about the remodeling.. it,s been two months.
first they ask , why no windows.. i told them some kh have windows.
soon after windows.
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NVR2L8
The local KHall built in 1987 and remodeled a few years ago has only windows in the front where there was a small meeting room (usually known as the back room, spanking room, elders's room...). Lately I found out that they did away with the library and they tore down the wall separating it from the meeting room to create a larger space for a foreign language group meeting...At least they now can look out and watch the cars go by when the meeting gets boring.
The KHall in surrounding areas have no windows either...
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Can we Die After the Thousand Years and Final Test?
by God_Delusion inhowdy guys and gals,.
i am currently researching some material on what watchtower doctrine says with regards to punishments jehovah candish out to us after the thousand year reign and the final test.. my mother (a brilliant woman) always told me that if a human purposefully went against jehovah after the thousand years and the final test, jehovah would instantly put them to death.
is this true?
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The only free will one would "enjoy" would be to do exactly as you are told...failure to do so will mean instant extinction! What a great prospect for those who sacrificed their life to attain the "real life".
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Statement "from heaven"
by leaving_quietly inthere was a post on here about a month ago about the dc speaker saying the statement was made that 'we are in the last day of the last days' and how we could count on it because it was in the outline and how the gb feels strongly about it.
well, apparently this is confirmed, because our speaker today was samuel herd, one of the gb members, and he prefaced it with: 'we got this statement from heaven'.
then he said something about not imagining coming up with the statement himeself.
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DofC,
One of the statement I hate the most is when JWs say Adam's rebellion wasn't that long ago since in Jehovah's eyes 6,000 years is only 6 days...the problem is that I live in men's years, 70-80 years only...so soon for me must be tomorrow! Unfortunately the only way JWs can justify 140 years of "soon" is by converting it to Jehovah's scale...
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How ManyYears Did You Waste Being A Jehovah's Witness?
by minimus ini was raised as a jw and i haven't been to a meeting in about 8 years..
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NVR2L8
From age 4, baptized at 14 in 1968 and left at once June 2010 - 52 years...