R1100RT BMW - crossed N-America from East to West on a full month trip...Banff/Lake Louise, National Glacier Park, Road to the sun, Yellowstone, Grand Coulee, Mount Rushmore....Last summer did the Blue Ridge Parkway down to the Deals Gap (tail of the dragon)...Smokey Mountains in Tennessee...this year? I have a week to decide...
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by harleybear inokay i thought it would be fun to find out who of you all ride bikes and i don't mean bicycles.
we have 2 harley road kings.
what do you ride??
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The biggest enemy the Watchtower Corporation faces now is "The Truth"
by Finkelstein inthats my opinion because the wts really has been preaching false information now for so long about the end times and armageddon soon.. also the doctrine that jesus chirt has taken a position over his earthly and heavenly kingdom in 1914 .... etc.
its been a winfall marketing scheme for such a long time, which now really doesn't have much leg to stand on.. time in conjunction with reality has made the wts's doctrines redundantly weak or useless more or less.. i'm even believing the leaders of the wts are even starting to know this for themselves.. the wts future and its main supporting pieces of literature, the watchtower and awake magazines may eventually be tossed aside.
for some new doctrines as well newly named pieces of literature .
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NVR2L8
My wife, son and his wife have just returned from the DC and they looked depressed and worn down - I am so glad I missed this "refreshing" spiritual banquet for a second year! I can't wait to hear some of the highlights in the coming days...I guess the "truth" is also getting long in the teeth for them too...but it is still not enough to wake them up.
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Let's make a dictionary of Watchtower terms using Watchtower terms
by brotherunsure ini'll start .
kingdom hall: a place where cult members get together to be faithful and discreet .
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NVR2L8
God's underserved kindness: coerses millions to slave for a printing company by having them believe Christ's sacrifice is not sufficient to bring salvation to mankind...
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Anyone care to guess the age of this baptismal candidate?
by cedars inthis picture appears on page 30 of the latest october 15th 2012 watchtower in an article discussing the importance of sticking to our baptismal vows..... .
anyone care to guess how young this poor chap is?.
cedars.
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NVR2L8
I go way back in the cult and I remember the WT saying that they didn't baptize new borns the way the Catholic and other churches do...I can't recall them ever saying that it was wrong to baptize children...Of course the perfect example is Jesus being baptized at 30, but when you bring this up they will say that he was allready dedicated at birth as an Israelite and his baptism as a mature adult had a different meaning...
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Anonymous Message to Watchtower
by jwleaks inhttp://www.bit.ly/jwleaks-anonymous.
hello citizens of the world.
we are anonymous.. dear brothers and sisters,.
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NVR2L8
The Watchtower is very careful in their use of "electronic" means of communications and I doubt that any details regarding cases of pedophilia would have been stored electronically or communicated by e-mail or even over the phone...Elders are cautioned about even using cellphones when communicating with the legal department of the WT. In order to acquire that list, someone inside would have to physically take the list or make a copy of the 23,000 names. So what can Anonymous really do? Shut down the WT site or infiltrate the field service reporting system? This would do very little to bring the cases of pedophilia to light...and in the real world who really cares about the WT except for its members or ex-members?
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Anyone care to guess the age of this baptismal candidate?
by cedars inthis picture appears on page 30 of the latest october 15th 2012 watchtower in an article discussing the importance of sticking to our baptismal vows..... .
anyone care to guess how young this poor chap is?.
cedars.
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NVR2L8
The youngest child baptized I am aware of was 6 years old...her mom and dad were missionaries in Africa and when the girl was born they moved back to Canada. They remained special pioneers and eventually the husband became a subtitue CO for a while then they moved to California where he studied to become a lawyer for the WT...I haven't heard from them after that move.
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Anyone care to guess the age of this baptismal candidate?
by cedars inthis picture appears on page 30 of the latest october 15th 2012 watchtower in an article discussing the importance of sticking to our baptismal vows..... .
anyone care to guess how young this poor chap is?.
cedars.
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NVR2L8
The youngest child baptized I am aware of was 6 years old...her mom and dad were missionaries in Africa and when the girl was born they moved back to Canada. They remained special pioneers and eventually the husband became a subtitue CO for a while then they moved to California where he studied to become a lawyer for the WT...I haven't heard from them after that move.
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Latest WT: "Refusing to appear before a JC is like refusing medical treatment"
by cedars inin the latest october 15th 2012 watchtower (page 13).... "because of what they perceive as defects in the elders, some individuals who engage in serious wrongdoing in the congregation have refused to appear before a committee of elders assigned to help them.
this could be likened to a patient who loses out on the benefits of a treatment because he does not like something about the doctor.".
sounds like they're now trying to stigmatize those who try to avoid judical action.
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NVR2L8
JWs advocate freedom to refuse treatment when it comes to blood transfusion even when the doctors bring the matter to the courts. Likewise they should respect the individual's right to refuse to participate in their internal "judicial" process...But JWs don't like to treat others like they demand to be treated!
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What brought you here?
by leaving_quietly infolks here all have one thing in common: they are somehow associated with jws, either were one, are married to one, have a relative who is one, has a romantic interest in one, are are currently one.
perhaps you are not one, but something about jws bugs you enough to have found this forum, and read it and contribute to it.
what brought you here?
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NVR2L8
I was doing research on the latest statistics on earthquakes for a public talk but I couldn't find anything that would support the WT's claim of an increase since 1914...one thing leading to another I found out about 607 BCE not being supported by history, the WT's membership in the UN as an NGO and the frequent misquotes of secular sources almost everytime (...) are used in the middle of a quote in the WT publications...
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Could Assemblies Be Wrecked?
by metatron inassemblies at the reading pa. assembly hall are getting disrupted repeatedly by somebody who keeps pulling fire alarms.
many witlesses blame it on "apostates" - rather than the dissolute teenagers who used to do such things in my day.. there are lots of things that so-called 'apostates' may do to disrupt assemblies including bomb threats phoned in, swat teams called, printed green insults stuffed into collection boxes etc.
add prohibitions against strollers and you have lots of reasons not to attend and thereby avoid the annoyances.
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At a DC a few years back an old man sitting at ice level in front of the platform had a heart attack. Quickly a few people came to his aid and had to give the man CPR until EMS arrived and took him out on a stretcher...the speaker didn't miss a beat and several attendants circled the scene to block the view of those around...At the next CA one speaker mentioned that the old man survived and was doing well thanks to Jehovah...I guess there was no reason to disrupt the meeting after all.....