I would be more concerned about actual pedophiles your elders are protecting by not disclosing them to the congregation..there are many more of them than one MacLean...
Posts by NVR2L8
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8Check your congregations for this creeper (Frederick Mclean)
by Stealth injust saw this scumbag profiled by john walsh "on the hunt".
if he is still associating with the jehovah's witnesses it is likely the governing body wt headquarters knows where he is at and is protecting him.
http://jehovahswitnessreport.com/blog/pedophile-frederick-mclean-still-on-the-run.
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Attention AMIII! you need to read WATCH OUT FOR SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS- A WT you would never see today!
by BU2B ini was reading an article from a '95 wt called "watch out for self righteousness" it exposes amiii as a true pharisee by their own definition.
the style and content sound a lot like ray franz but it obviously was not.
i am confident you would never see an article like this in todays wt land.
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Talking about rules, several years ago there was a local needs talk saying that it was inappropriate for brothers and sisters to hug or kiss as a greeting and although it was not wide spread, this custom was worldly and could be used by Satan to lure some to immorality. I felt targeted since in my culture even brothers hug and kiss..So a few weeks went by and we had our COs visit but it wasn't our usual CO. The couple that came were ex missionaries and the brother was now training to be a WT attorney. As soon as they arrived the sister ran from the back to the front of the hall where I was standing and gave me the biggest and the longest hug ever while kissing me on the cheeks. Many in the hall saw this and probably were shocked when they realized the gorgeous blond woman was the sub COs wife! I had known her a long time and I helped her learn a second language. I also learned sign language with her and worked with the hearing impaired, but no one knew this. Her husband then came and after the introduction he gave me a hug...From then on I returned to my good habit of hugging and kissing friends unchallenged by the elders. Still several years later I spoke with an ex jw who was one of the elders then and he said I was under watch for flirting and that's why I was passed for service privileges. Not to brag but I have been faithful to my wife for over 40 years and no longer being a JW hasn't changed that.
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Which helps more? The trolley dollies or this guy....
by Slidin Fast inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aubtadi7zuy.
i am not usually impressed by human interest stories but this guy does more good in five minutes, does more to promote humanity in 5 minutes than a bus load of sterile literature carts and cartons of propaganda.. what say you, can one person make difference?
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Raised in the cult I was never involved in any kind of charity until I left. Now I participate in several fund raisers for humanitarian causes and for the first time in my life I experienced the true joy of giving. -
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I Let Go Of Faith Ten years Ago Today
by cofty inafter more than 30 years as a jw and 9 as a born-again christian i finally let go of faith 10 years ago today.... it was on boxing day 2004 that news of the asian tsunami put the final nail in the coffin of my relationship with god.
since that time i have listened attentively to every possible argument in defense of faith; there has never been a single moment that i have felt any discomfort with my decision.. life without god has been liberating.
no longer do i have to defend the indefensible.
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My story is similar to yours Cofty. I no longer believe in anything that requires blind faith. I know this life is all we have and I am at peace with the fact that it will all end when I die. Today my life is less complicated and I enjoy being the master of my destiny. -
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Status of people shunned before rule change?
by rebel8 inback in the early 1980s, some congregations were "disassociating" unbaptized people who committed alleged disfellowshipping offenses and weren't repentant.
it was announced from the platform in the same way, "so and so is disassociated," followed by 1 scripture about shunning and another about the specific sin that person had committed.
the ritual shunning was exactly the same as dfing.
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The only announcement I ever heard was so and so is no longer an unbaptized publisher. There was no official shunning but of course you would limit your association to congregation meetings with such people. -
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One of these days I'm going to get a new look
by stillin ini mean, just look at me!
i'm disgusting!
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NVR2L8
I also changed mine to one that reflects how I felt when I was trapped in. -
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Public Speaker Training stifled by wt, it's new 'school' programme.
by prologos inthe 2015 school setup, discussed this week eliminates the last "school talk" by brothers in favour of 'demonstartions" (a la sisters conversations) of family worship sessions and the like.. is this not a shift away from encouraging bright young ones to hone their (under-estimated) speaker skills ---to.
now using more of the die-hard, org-bound, --even elders in indoctrination demonstrations?.
do you see this trend?
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After the book study was combined with the midweek meeting I felt like meetings were similar to speed dating...five minutes and you move on to another subject. There was no time to meditate on or cover in depth the information. Assemblies were just the same. It all became meaningless. -
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Did you know about the organ transplant ban when you were a believer?
by Apognophos inback when i was learning ttatt, i was shocked to read on jwfacts about the organ transplant ban from 1967 to 1980. this was a large piece of evidence for me that the society could not be god's organization.
growing up as an earnest witness, and living near the headquarters, i knew a lot of the organization's embarrassing history, and it didn't faze me, but i'd never heard of this ban before, and it shocked me.
it's gotten me wondering why no one i know ever talks about it, when it must have affected many witnesses during that time (or were they getting transplants on the sly?
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I knew about it but I didn't worry because I thought it was unlikely that I would ever need an organ transplant. Just goes to say my critical thinking was totally turned off and I didn't consider the implications for those requiring a transplant to survive. -
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Do do do do do you remember..
by tim hooper indoes anyone else recall the big chart that hung at the front of every kingdom hall?.
it would be about 5 feet x 4 feet.
on the side of the chart, vertically listed, were the months of the year.
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NVR2L8
I used to cut the numbers and paste them on the board. Black digits indicated the publishers met the required quota and red digits meant the congregation was short. In these days publishers were required to do 10 hours, 6 back calls, place 12 mags and conduct one study. That board was at the front of the hall during the week night meeting but it was stored away for the Sunday meeting if I remember well.
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0 to 100 Real Quick? How many meetings can I miss w/o being harassed?
by Yondaime inmissed two in a row and got no grief.
should i keep the streak going and see what happens?.
by the way, i made my college's basketball pratice squad, to help workout the team during scrimmages .
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NVR2L8
I stopped suddenly a few months after telling the elders I no longer wanted to serve in the congregation. My wife continues to go. It took 10 months for the first contact from the congregation to happen in the form of an unannounced visit from 2 elders. I didn't invite them in and told them to leave me alone. It's been 4 years...not a peep from anyone. Only the occasional hello from so and so when my wife returns from her meeting. I think the key is to be directed and firm.