hi guys & gals!.
a friend, and current witness, says the jehovah's witnesses have the truth because they're the only religion that state that satan is in control of the world and not god/jesus as some christian religions state.. how can i counter this argument?.
warm regards and love,.
And they are not the ONLY religion that preach this. (just google it and will find hundreds of pages speaking about that).
They are not the ONLY one in nothing at all.
They even are not the MOST crazy religion out there. Islam have the first prize in that.
hi guys & gals!.
a friend, and current witness, says the jehovah's witnesses have the truth because they're the only religion that state that satan is in control of the world and not god/jesus as some christian religions state.. how can i counter this argument?.
warm regards and love,.
This argument is so ridiculous.
It's a non sequitur fallacy. One sentence does not follow or justifies the other.
It's like say because rains upon churches, they must be the truth.
You can say the other religions preach god exists, so they must be the true religion.
The other religions accept the bible as the word of god, so they must be the true religion.
Etc...
yesterday, stand for pure worship confessed that he has been trolling jwn, as he has through many incarnations.. it makes me wonder if any of the jw apologists that have posted here over my last two years have been real: scholar, recovery, and so forth..
Have just two kinds of true apologists:
1- The hit and run (and never reappears).
2- Ctrl+C \ Ctrl+V and no discussion.
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/editorials/2013/12/25/dec--25-was-picked-as-birthday-of-jesus-for-christian-reasons.html.
adchoices.
header adchoices erick erickson commentary: dec. 25 was picked as birthday of jesus for christian reasons /subscribe-dispatchwednesday december 25, 2013 6:08 am.
What is important is that he is just a myth.
from the usa's foreign policy magazine:.
source: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/12/20/angels_and_demons_africa_malawi_witches_hiv#sthash.7r18d9ng.dpbs.
angels and demons.
They are burning people alive over there!
a friend of mine recently had his co visit and in the elders meeting the co out-right asked the question: how are the friends doing in your cong.
as regards pursuing higher education?
the co continued...you know in view of all the counsel from the slave regarding the dangers.
This cannot be true! They are writing TTATT in their own magazines!
or the 2000's generation thing?.
how did you feel?
how did it help you wake up?
There's no more internal cohesiveness in the JW mythology.
One generation becomes two (or more).
144,000 members of the Slave becomes just 8.
New bible, new ugly songs, new ridiculous magazines, KH's sold...
Religion was supposed to be an oasis of steady tradition in people's lives (because truth never changes), but the WT is a new religion in each 5 years (or less).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfpeprq7ogc.
that's just crazy, that if the particles are being monitored and data recorded, they act exactly as we 'think' they should act.
however if they are not being monitored and no way to watch them, then they act completely different and more random.
(So does the particle know if the record button is on or not ?)
Not! It's same thing to say light "knows" when you turn a switch on. But you can consider t he view that all matter has consciousness call panpsychism (or pan consciousness).
If panpsy is true, a switch have a rudimentar form of consciousness. This topic is considered in artificial intelligence stuff, that's something much more "spiritual" than QM.
we have debated this over many years and in many threads, as all of us have family and/or former friends still in.
it seems that there is no "best" way to wake up a jw, it is as elusive as the "true" religion it seems.. but a comment made by poster "emery" on another thread stood out to me, he/she said :.
"what i have gathered is that most witnesses seem to be in it for emotional reasons.
I once had a successful approach with a very emotional JW.
I just told her that the most natural way the true god would reveal to everyone of us is:
1) God revealing itself to you in a very personal way.
2) God says to you he have a book with more information about what to do.
3) This book of god (bible) appoints you to an earthly organization (JW's).
She accepted it.
So I made this born-in JW girl admits she gone through the opposite order:
1) One earthly organization show to her about an old book.
2) This organization said this book reveals an old mountain god.
3) This organization said this old god through this old book says this organization is the only true religion.
The first one is god directing the entire process in a loop back to him. The second one is an organization directing a loop to itself.
She realized the TTAA after that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfpeprq7ogc.
that's just crazy, that if the particles are being monitored and data recorded, they act exactly as we 'think' they should act.
however if they are not being monitored and no way to watch them, then they act completely different and more random.
In the quantum scale there's no time and space, so the effects (measure) happens before the causes (particle).
The particle appears from the wave function through the act of measure.
In the metric world it's impossible to measure something that's not there yet. Even if you try to throw balls in the air at random it will not produce something. But in quantum realm it's different.
If you want to catch a quantum fly (particle) with chopsticks (photons) all you need to do is snap (measure) into air and suddenly a fly will appear on it. LOL
