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  How did Revelation make it in the bible?? It's a drug fuelled trip!

  by Witness 007 in

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  2. bible

  catholic church killed off alot of christian books from the "offical" bible collection.

  so why let thru the weird book of revelation?

  have you read the watchtowers explanation it's a joke rutherford's conventions play a huge part..

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  Because Revelation 11:18 speaks of a time when people "ruin" the fine-tuning of earth.

  I see what you are saying but it doesn't say anything about the fine tuning of the Earth. It doesn't matter what a Greek word says, that's just academic.

  In another 100 years time, they'll be saying something else 'trendy' about it.

  ....and please, do me a favour, never quote the Guardian as authority, it's utter garbage written by Lefty, woke, neo Marxist activists.

  Until the Bible states something exactly, without resorting to people shoehorning things in or making something out of a vagueness for their own agenda, I remain sceptical. I think that's reasonable, don't you?

  
  
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  How did Revelation make it in the bible?? It's a drug fuelled trip!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  catholic church killed off alot of christian books from the "offical" bible collection.

  so why let thru the weird book of revelation?

  have you read the watchtowers explanation it's a joke rutherford's conventions play a huge part..

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  Book of Revelation may have many human inputs, yet it has some real prophetic elements such as 11:18 which speaks of a time earth will undergo Climate Emergency, and now we are experiencing it.

  How do you get from some vague words in an old collection of writings to 'climate emergency'?
  
  
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  New World Translation is not much different other translations

  by Abraham1 in

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  2. bible

  key scripture 2 timothy 3:16 should have been translated as “every scripture inspired of god is also profitable for teaching” like many other serious translations (such as american standard version ; douay-rheims bible etc) as it is what the greek text says.. this is in harmony with the contents of bible and also with the writer paul himself who knew after his departure ‘even from his own number men will arise and distort the truth.’ (acts 20:29-30) for example, verses such as romans 7:19 is such distortion.

  such verses cannot originate from real paul who was “holy, righteous and blameless.” (1 thessalonians 2:10) hence paul had the freeness of speech to tell others to be “blameless” like him (1 thessalonians 5:19-23; ephesians 5:24) there are many things in the scriptures which are not inspired such as words of satan, words of job’s wife and his false friends, words of judas, lot’s daughters …etc.

  apostle peter never disowned jesus because if he had done so, his contemporaries would have interrupted him when he rebuked jews, saying: “you disowned the holy and righteous one and asked that a murderer be released to you.“ (acts 3:14) his listeners would have asked him “what right do you have to reprove us for ‘disowning jesus” when you yourself have done it first?” all such verses or accounts were later adoptions.

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  This has interested me for a few years now, I ask - How do we know Jesus existed? Just because an old book (collection of books), says something doesn't mean it's true, does it?

  When Jesus speaks of future events (such as pollution and sea-level rise—Revelation 11:18; Luke 21:25) it comes true.

  I'd be interested to know how you come to this conclusion. The verses seem rather vague. Don't you agree?
  
  
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  New World Translation is not much different other translations

  by Abraham1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  key scripture 2 timothy 3:16 should have been translated as “every scripture inspired of god is also profitable for teaching” like many other serious translations (such as american standard version ; douay-rheims bible etc) as it is what the greek text says.. this is in harmony with the contents of bible and also with the writer paul himself who knew after his departure ‘even from his own number men will arise and distort the truth.’ (acts 20:29-30) for example, verses such as romans 7:19 is such distortion.

  such verses cannot originate from real paul who was “holy, righteous and blameless.” (1 thessalonians 2:10) hence paul had the freeness of speech to tell others to be “blameless” like him (1 thessalonians 5:19-23; ephesians 5:24) there are many things in the scriptures which are not inspired such as words of satan, words of job’s wife and his false friends, words of judas, lot’s daughters …etc.

  apostle peter never disowned jesus because if he had done so, his contemporaries would have interrupted him when he rebuked jews, saying: “you disowned the holy and righteous one and asked that a murderer be released to you.“ (acts 3:14) his listeners would have asked him “what right do you have to reprove us for ‘disowning jesus” when you yourself have done it first?” all such verses or accounts were later adoptions.

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  Smidster - Christian religious faith is that people tend to cherry pick what scriptures they want to believe as inspired by God

  I was thinking along the same lines.

  Each version of the Christian faith has different beliefs about what the Bible says or what they think it means.

  This is why I don't believe the Bible is inspired of a god or whatever because if it was, the message would be obvious and all Christians would believe the same thing exactly. There would be no doubt about what it says.

  Oh, and well done God for having it written in a redundant language. What an intergalactic putz.

  I'd be interested in a logical reason why all this is. What have you got folks?
  
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  What changes are on the way?

  by insearchoftruth in

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  2. beliefs

  i was listening to the co talk to my wife’s congregation on sunday and pretty much the complete talk was justifying doctrinal and organizational changes and pretty much preparing the ‘rank and file’ for upcoming changes.

  anyone on hear have any insight of what ‘new light’ is coming in the future?.

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  Overlapping stuff
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  So I was at a jw wedding and guess what!

  by nowwhat? in

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  2. beliefs

  the major topic of conversation was that almost all do not want to go back to the meetings and field service!

  and we are talking very zealous and active witnesses!

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  The major topic of conversation was that almost all do not want to go back to the meetings and field service!

  Understandable. Even when I was a zealot, I hated these 2 things.

  And we are talking very zealous and active witnesses!

  ...well, they have to pretend to be 'spiritual(TM)' or the witch hunt begins.
  
  
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  Body of Elders Leadership

  by bola in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  who has more power in the body of elders in watchtower.

  is it the cboe, secretary, service overseer or who?

  i am just wondering since in my congo there seems to be cowards among them..

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  who?

  The biggest bully.
  
  
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  The Watchtower—Study Edition | January 2022

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower—study edition | january 2022. during the great tribulation, gog of magog’s forces may try to assault us in our homes.

  but we can take comfort in knowing that jesus and his angels are aware of what is happening and will defend us (see paragraph 13).

  13. when gog of magog attacks, why will we appear to be vulnerable, but what reason for confidence will we have?

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  It's the same old re-cycled garbage with better graphics is all.

  Sad. Very sad.
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  Do any of you ex JW`s ever feel ashamed or embarrassed to admit you were once a JW? To your now friends / associates ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i ask this now because i have been living in this town for the past 14 years and the circle of friends i have now i have never let on i am an ex jw.. i`m talking about 30-50 people at least.. not that the subject has ever really come up , but i think they would be shocked / amazed that i was a ( i hate this word ) a "devout" jw for 32 years going around knocking on peoples doors trying to convert them to the religion .. yet every now and again i get tempted to.. how say you ?.

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  I found it interesting how the people I knew when I was a Jobo, actually told me they thought the Jobos were a stupid cult after I left. However, they didn't want to say that when I was a Jobo.

  How darned polite of them.
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  What do you do before making a very hard decision?

  by Iamallcool in

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  any takers?.

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  FFGhost - Consult the Umim and the Thumim.

  This is my fave answer thus far.