if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
Tonus - if I walked up to you and told you I was the faithful and discreet slave of scripture, would you feel obligated to disprove it?
Even if I believed or didn't, I'd think anyone saying that was clearly bonkers and get away from them.
would you ask why I believe that claim and how I can show it to be true?
I'd be around the corner before you could say 'mental institution'.
Probably why I think the Governing Body(TM) (Pee be upon them) are untruthful.
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
Jeffro said it!!
........plus, I don't believe the Bible is a Holy book. Therefore, anything in it is fiction.
So, there is that.
pimo , as i said i`m going out on a limb here and i might upset some people ,but i really don`t think this is a real strategy that works and doesn`t help the person who is still in.. while you may be doing this to keep the peace in the household and keep relations somewhat stable in the family arrangement ,it`s not helping the person who is still under the control of wt/gb to break free from it ,and isn`t that what you would really like to happen ?.
and are their children involved as well ?
that`s another issue ,the longer they are subject to this control the harder it will be for them to disengage get free.. maybe you should re-evaluate what you could do more to help your partner / spouse or whatever to free themselves from this bondage they have involved themselves in.. [ of course their may be others who are quite happy to have their partners/mates under the control of the wt/gb.
It's a tough one smidds.
I imagine it's going to be each case on it's own merits.
I might upset some people
It's only snowflake idiots that'll be offended.
what are some of the red flags that should alert people to the fact that jehovah's witnesses are a high control and damaging religion?.
one that comes to mind is.
1. one cannot leave jehovah's witnesses with one's reputation intact.
You may say 'cult' or 'high control group'. It really is academic.
The truth is that the leaders protect paedophiles.
what more proof do you need that they are not 'Christian' but utter grifting scum?
jehovah's witnesses refuse to believe that jesus is the almighty god.
they would state that jesus is 'mighty', but not almighty.. below is a 30 minute video proving from the word of god that the lord jesus christ is both mighty and almighty, separate from the father but equal too.. the verses used from scripture show without a doubt that christ is mighty (isaiah 9:6) and almighty (rev 1:7-8)..
Firstly, prove to me that Jesus actually existed by using non bible evidence.
Even if Jesus is proven to have existed, you then need to prove he was as the Bible says. Then you have to prove the miracles happened and so on. You can't. Then it'd be a struggle to prove God exists.
I don't think anyone can because God and Jesus are just fiction that grifters use to get money and power.
Why do you believe all this stuff?
as 1975 was approaching, many witnesses sold their property.
do you know about specific cases that are willing to share their experience of doing so?.
"...we don't have to guess what the year 1975 means if we read the Watchtower. ...And don't wait 'till 1975. The door is going to be shut before then....As one brother put it, "Stay alive to Seventy-Five..."---- Wisconsin Sheboygan District Overseer Brother Charles Sinutko 1967.
What a pillock!
i recall reading here that a wife was raped at watchtower farms some years ago (can't find it here anymore) by a another bethelite wearing a red flannel shirt.
they found his shirt and booted him.. 'hundreds of new york women are about to sue alleged rapists (and enablers) under a revolutionary new law.
watch out, donald trump.. .
Smiddy - This post is far too long for me to even attempt to understand it ?., sorry .
I feel a bit the same. When I see anything referring to 'Trump', I think, 'here we go! The tribes are at war again. America and the political sides. Ugh!'
I have enough problem with the fiction of British politics. It's all lies by self serving filth. I refuse to take sides.
Now, where was I? Oh, yes. Eating a Pot Noodle.
thousands of years ago .. genesis chapter 11: 1-9 and how god was affected by what man planned to do ?.
build a tower into the heavens ?
their is no end to what he may acheive having only one language .. today, in the year 2022.. not only are modern skyscrapers taller than anything that could have been built with the tower of babel in bible times ,but what is acheivable today in space far exceeds anything that could have been acheived back then.. and god / jehovah is silent ?.
Zane has a really good explanation here. Were I a believer, I would go with it.
However, I refer to my previous opinion that religion is just a big grift that we got drawn in to and is an utter waste of time.
Eg - So what did God do?
My answer, Nothing. It didn't happen. It's all fiction. I'm yet to see evidence of a god or gods.
First prove to me that the Bible is 'Holy'. Not just by the book proving the book. Or prophecy being fulfilled when we're not even sure the prophecy pre-dates the event. If it even happened at all.
I'm sure 'scholars will say....' but they're probably in with the grift.
Do you see my dilemma?
He's lucky he wasn't named. 'Ouch, ya bugger!'
thousands of years ago .. genesis chapter 11: 1-9 and how god was affected by what man planned to do ?.
build a tower into the heavens ?
their is no end to what he may acheive having only one language .. today, in the year 2022.. not only are modern skyscrapers taller than anything that could have been built with the tower of babel in bible times ,but what is acheivable today in space far exceeds anything that could have been acheived back then.. and god / jehovah is silent ?.
smid - Build a tower into the heavens ? Their is no end to what he may acheive having only one language .
.....and along comes Google Translate.
I don't have any confidence that the Bible is a 'Holy' book, anymore than Spider-man comics. Both can be enjoyable reading but mostly fiction. I say 'mostly' because in Spider-man comics, he lives in a real place. Does this prove he exists, just because NYC is real?
It's all been a big grift for those unscrupulous enough to realise they can cash in on people's superstitions. I admit, being brought up as a Jobot, I was conned too.
It pains me to see folk going deep into what a scripture/s mean. They study thoroughly. They don't agree on things, even after that.
Don't they realise they've been conned into believing rubbish by clever grifters? Grifters that have the knack of making them feel special for knowing stuff from a book of metaphors. It saddens me to the heart of my bottom.
