Posts by punkofnice

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Are the teachings of JW—consistent?

by Fisherman in

i would belief so but if you can point something out, it can be discussed.. i don’t mean what jw taught in the past that they later realized was not correct and amended.

—unless you think and can show something like that is relevant.. i’ve spoken to a lot of believers from different religions.

i don’t want to bash any religion here under this topic but their beliefs are inconsistent and their reasons are sophistry and made up and grounded on circular reasoning.

punkofnice

FM - I don’t mean what JW taught in the past that they later realized was not correct and amended.

Well, that narrows it down. What time-frame are you narrowing it down to? Last 25 years? Why brush the cult's failures under the carpet?

Why was there something not correct? God dropped his phone in the toilet again?

Unless you think and can show something like that is relevant.

It's all relevant. If the cult leaders need to make 'corrections' then something is deeply wrong with them. they should have got it right the 1st time Jehovah(tm) whispered in TOMO's ear. Or was he too drunk to hear properly?

OK. Loss of lives because of the cult's stance on refusing blood transfusions. Then they changed to being ok with blood 'fractions(tm)'. What of the lives lost and families damaged by the stance before 'blood fractions(tm)' that needn't have happened after the 'correction(tm)'?

You tell me.

Smiddy - How can the JW`s religion be consistent if they have modified /changed their position

Spot on mate!

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If not the WT/JW relgion where else are 'we' to go? Why not atheistic/scientific philosophical naturalism?

by Disillusioned JW in

sometimes jws wonder if the wt/jw is not the truth, 'then where else are we to go?

' i say 'why not atheistic/scientific philosophical naturalism and why not a secular philosophy which teaches a way of life?

' what do you folks say?.

punkofnice

Dissy - Hi punkofnice. Lately in thread I have been making posts about nutritional/medicinal supplements which seem to prolong good health and which seem to prolong lifespan.

Sorry. I missed this 1st time around. That is an interesting subject.

I sometimes pick and munch on a bit of Yarrow that grows wild in the grass. Have to mind that the dogs haven't left their 'scent' on it tho.

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1969 Awake on Education - A Sore Spot for Me

by NotBlind in

jw
friends

my father would have started college 49 years ago this week.

about three months earlier, the week he graduated high school, the awake!

magazine came out with some very clear direction to teenagers.

punkofnice

....oooh, I don't wanna go there......................I wanted to go to Art College and become a success with art in some area.

'Oh, No! You can't get a further education, Punk. Armageddon(tm) is right around the corner....and think of all the bad association(tm).'

It makes my blood boil.

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Do the old boys on the GB actually report their field service hours?

by eyeslice in

this came to mind as my 71 year old wife got up at 6:30 to drive 1.1/4 hours to meet the field ministry group.

we live a long way from the kingdom hall and the traffic is horrendous where we live!.

somehow, i doubt the good old boys do much themselves.

punkofnice

Wingy. Here, here. Absolutely agree with you, squire.

I had it shoved down my throat that I was to be a good-little JW at all times

Me too. I was mainly embarrassed to do it, but 'preach(tm)' I had to. Lawdy, it was an uncomfortable life. The Governing Body(tm) (Pee be upon them), have no idea....or if they do, they laugh at the Jobots discomfort.

a member of the "world" approached him in casual talk.......and he completely missed the opportunity to lead it into a preaching opportunity

It shows that they probably don't believe their own crap-house nonsense.

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freedom of speech and loss of rights

by enoughisenough in

i was thinking about freedom of speech after watching a clip about the jw suing kevin mcfree.

they wanted to take away his freedom of speech.

but in thinking about it, that is the way of the organization, save they want to control thought as well.

punkofnice

When you consider how the Governing Body(tm) (Pee be upon them), stifle the speech of victims of Watchtower approved nonces, then is it any wonder they want to stifle anything that might damage their reputation?

Damaged reputation = loss of money. Oh my, oh my, how would poor TOMO get into a drunken stupor then?

FM - The first amendment legally applies etc & I don’t know the case you reference

The Youtuber is British, mate. Like me. I'm not sure how American amendments apply to him.

Beth's Serum - the Borg hates being proved wrong.

It's hilarious how many times they are proved wrong and even prove themselves wrong. Where do you start with that one? No wonder TOMO tries to remain drunk.

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Keep telling yourself that!

by Lost in the fog in

in the latest copy of the elders textbook someone kindly made available to us on this website, i see that "independently organized meetings for spiritual feeding" are still not allowed.

no wonder because independent research would let the scales fall from the eyes.. the gb still insisting that they are guided by the (always lower case) holy spirit and the bible!!

not that the rank and file members need the bible or holy spirit themselves because they are fed through meetings, conventions, assemblies, jw broadcasting and the publications.

punkofnice

The only 'spirit' the Governing Body(tm) (Pee be upon them), are guided by is top brand Whiskey. Just watch TOMO slur his words as he gives his drunken, delusional, hate speech on the Broadcast(tm).....and the Jobots lap up every bit of hubris from this alcohol infused bunch of sexual predator protectors.

Looking back to when I was a Jobot, I wonder how I never saw through the lies and hate from the Governing Body(tm) (Pee be upon them).

I wish I'd woken up sooner, although I'm not going to say I didn't have doubts, but I suppressed them. I didn't want 'Jehovah(tm)' to lovingly murder me at 'Armageddon(tm)'.

They guilt tripped me bad. I can never forgive them or myself for falling for it.

Combatting Cult Mind Control was the best thing I ever read.

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Do the old boys on the GB actually report their field service hours?

by eyeslice in

this came to mind as my 71 year old wife got up at 6:30 to drive 1.1/4 hours to meet the field ministry group.

we live a long way from the kingdom hall and the traffic is horrendous where we live!.

somehow, i doubt the good old boys do much themselves.

punkofnice

TOMO the 3rd will be too drunk on expensive Whiskey to be bothered.

I'm sure the Governing Body(tm) (Pee be upon them), are exempt from anything other than a rock star life style.

I can imagine TOMO drunk (like he usually seems to be), hurling TV's out of Hotel windows. Goosing the Bell Boy's bum and winking.

I feel the Governing Body(tm) (Pee be upon them), will never live by their own (not the Bible's), rules as they sneer down on the great unwashed. (Unless one is a sexual predator, then TOMO and the boys will rally around to protect their like minded nonce).

Safe to say, they won't count time(tm). As Smiddy says quite rightly, it's below them.

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why celebrate xmas?

by enoughisenough in

many on here are ex jw....they have left the jws because of coming to find out the many false indoctrinations.

one of the things learned as a jw is that there isn't anything true about xmas being the birth of jesus.

( matt chapter 2 tells a whole different narrative about the baby jesus than what is portrayed by the christian churches) they learn the ways that are celebrated are pagan practices jesus told the samaritan woman that god wanted to be worshipped in spirit and it truth.

punkofnice

jan - A religious terrorist trying to hack off their neighbour's head would be found innocent!! In what universe ?

In the universe of grooming gang protector in chief, Kier Starmer?

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Pioneer couple sense of entitlement

by nowwhat? in

so there's this middle age pioneer couple.

he works part time and the wife doesn't work at all.

their daughter is getting married and even though it is known they go on multiple vacations a year, they expect the grooms parents to pay for 100% of the wedding!

punkofnice

Is it because they're Pious-sneers or because they're just grotty people?

Perhaps being pious-sneers, it enhances their grotty nature.

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how do you perceive jehovah?

by stan livedeath in

what did you think god looked like when you were ( or still are ) a jw ?

or even never a jw..but believe in god ?.

punkofnice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-iWe4qXUD8