hi.
if you had to convince a prospective jw why this religion is not the true religion, and you could only use one reason to persuade them, what would it be?.
chukky.
JW's claim to be Christian and claim to shun the occult and yet their core teaching of 1914 was soley based on CT Russell's Astrology and Pyramidology.
This teaching of 1914 is still held to to this day and yet it's occult roots are not challenged because they are hidden (occult), to the rank and file.
If the occult is from the Devil then so is 1914.
if a friend of mine starts to say things out of emotion and i call him "schizophrenic" then that might be an insult.
however if he is having auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions, or disorganized speech and thinking then that word becomes a description of his situation.. now i ask you.
does the attendance to the kh promote intelligence?
@Finally-Free True True !
Some folk seem more snivellingly sensitive about hurting the poor little dubbies' feelings than they are about those of us who have been tragically hurt by the dubbies! Who is it that breaks up families? Not me by saying 'Grovelling Baddies of the Filthful Saliva cl-arse'
Get over it!
i mentally left the org in march 2010. i stepped down as an elder after my lad got into trouble.
i researched the publications to make myself 'spiritually strong' but it backfired.. i was in mental and emotional turmoil, still on fs, the platform and meetings etc.
i had to force myself to conform to ever failing jw doctrine.. i announced to my family that i was not going back to meetings in august 2010 after the 'overlapping' joke of 'new light'.. i told the elders not to call.
Intersting to hear your stories.
I'm a bit kind of 'agnostic' these days.
Although I have attended Church in secret as a 'guilty pleasure' and really enjoyed the genuineness of the Christians there. Unconditional love rocks!
so i have good reason there's a possibility that the convention may have so nu-lite on daniel prophecy.
coming from the geniuses that brought us the overlapping generation, one can only speculate what nuttiness they will come up with next..
New Light = damage control
It'll be some crap to make the dubs feel the end is just around the corner.
It'll be another failure that they won't say 'sorry' for but blame the dubs for believing it in the 1st place.
Totally pathetic whatever the new crap is!
if a friend of mine starts to say things out of emotion and i call him "schizophrenic" then that might be an insult.
however if he is having auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions, or disorganized speech and thinking then that word becomes a description of his situation.. now i ask you.
does the attendance to the kh promote intelligence?
I use terms like Kingdumb Hell and Asleep! gammy-zine because of the irony held in them. I do not use these terms in my conversations. So what if I did?
I have been called names using JW 'feeling of superiority swear words' = 'spiritually weak', 'apostate', 'immature', 'worldly' and so on.
So, bolloicks to them. If they can't take it they can shut the funck up!
when told recently of someone in the congregation who had "given in to temptation", the person relating the incident said: "satan waited until just the right moment to tempt br.
weak.
i began thinking about the correlation between temptation, free will, and what jws teach about wicked spirit creatures' abilities (or lack thereof).. jws teach that wicked spirit forces can affect the material world-- move objects, speak in audible voice, create visions, possess living creatures (humans included); yet they also teach that they cannot read or manipulate our thoughts.
@Mad Sweeney = My pleasure.........
http://www.exitsupportnetwork.com/artcls/mindctrl/lifton.htm
when told recently of someone in the congregation who had "given in to temptation", the person relating the incident said: "satan waited until just the right moment to tempt br.
weak.
i began thinking about the correlation between temptation, free will, and what jws teach about wicked spirit creatures' abilities (or lack thereof).. jws teach that wicked spirit forces can affect the material world-- move objects, speak in audible voice, create visions, possess living creatures (humans included); yet they also teach that they cannot read or manipulate our thoughts.
Mystical Manipulation - The group attributes supernatural influences where none are present--attributing an accident to a member that left to be "God's punishment"--or manipulates situations so they appear spontaneous--members believing that their new feelings and behavior has arisen spontaneously because of joining their new group. The effect is enhanced by the milieu control because dissenting or alternative ideas are not present. |
Yup! Satan did it!
when told recently of someone in the congregation who had "given in to temptation", the person relating the incident said: "satan waited until just the right moment to tempt br.
weak.
i began thinking about the correlation between temptation, free will, and what jws teach about wicked spirit creatures' abilities (or lack thereof).. jws teach that wicked spirit forces can affect the material world-- move objects, speak in audible voice, create visions, possess living creatures (humans included); yet they also teach that they cannot read or manipulate our thoughts.
A prime example of the cult propoganda technique of 'Mystical Manipulation'!
when i was first appointed i did, not me myself, but the body as a whole.
good group of spiritual men.
at first a pleasure to serve with them.
I remember one particularly long and nasty elders meeting. A pre CO 'why aren't you doing more you lazy bastards?' meeting. This was the PO (CoBE) in powertrip mode.
We were all doing our best but he wanted to show off like the twat he is.
I drove home fuming with anger, listening to the Sex Pistols really loud, got pissed on lager and refused to go on FS the next day!
to the intellectually honest witness, it seems like it often comes down to this principle.
"fine, if the witnesses aren't the truth, then show me the better answer and i'll consider it.
" and how do you deal with that?
My Mom keeps asking me: '...but, what are you doing with your life?'
My response: 'Enjoying it!'
She just can't understand how I can be happy without watchtower mind control!
