Posts by punkofnice

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Watchtower Double Speak

by Vanderhoven7 in

on eternal life.

"none of us are in position to earn god’s gifts, least of all to earn the gift of life.

but we can show ourselves worthy of the gift of eternal life by … dedicating ourselves to jehovah and then proving faithful to that dedication.” (the watchtower, august 15, 1952, p. 485).

punkofnice

"None of us are in position to earn God’s gifts, least of all to earn the gift of life.

Bible: You cannot 'work' for Salvation. It's a gift if you're a good egg.

But we can show ourselves worthy of the gift of eternal life by … dedicating ourselves to Jehovah and then proving faithful to that dedication.” (The Watchtower, August 15, 1952, p. 485)

Governing Body of JWs: You'll never be good eggs. Work, work, work for Salvation. By this, we mean, give us money and power.
Nothing says you love (cough! Cough!), God, more than giving us cold, hard CA$H!....and...er.....don't worry, we'll put in a good word for you.

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"The Truth"

by Ding in

we all know that jws consider the wt religion to be "the truth" and refer to it as such.. granted, that phrase is used repeatedly in the literature and from the platform.. but it's obvious that much of what the organization used to require jws to teach house-to-house as important truths--even within our own lifetimes--has been abandoned.

it's been replaced by "new light" and "refined understanding.

what's meant by "the 1914 generation" is a prime example.. in fact, i think it would be hard to find another religion that has changed so many of its teachings, especially in such a short period of time.. so why do jws still believe their religion to be "the truth"?.

punkofnice

Konagirl.

Although I don't believe the Bible is the word of any God/s, I made this for you....

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Happy Halloween

by Vanderhoven7 in

first time celebrating halloween.

guess my costume!.

pretty scary huh?.

punkofnice

A beard??????

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Apostate Hunter?

by Lost in the fog in

has anyone heard of this jw guy?.

apparently he writes a weekly (weakly?

) blog as well as having written this book where he claims he disses the claims of "apostates".. to know what apostates are saying he has to be engaging with them or tuning into websites like this one, contravening the gb's direction not to do so.

punkofnice

Sounds like an attention seeker.

I wonder if he actually sells any books? If so, does he/she/they give the money to the World Wide Work(tm)?

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"The Truth"

by Ding in

we all know that jws consider the wt religion to be "the truth" and refer to it as such.. granted, that phrase is used repeatedly in the literature and from the platform.. but it's obvious that much of what the organization used to require jws to teach house-to-house as important truths--even within our own lifetimes--has been abandoned.

it's been replaced by "new light" and "refined understanding.

what's meant by "the 1914 generation" is a prime example.. in fact, i think it would be hard to find another religion that has changed so many of its teachings, especially in such a short period of time.. so why do jws still believe their religion to be "the truth"?.

punkofnice

I think the book that really helped me was 'combatting cult mind control' Steven Hassan. It explained how cults use words to mentally enslave people.

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"The Truth"

by Ding in

we all know that jws consider the wt religion to be "the truth" and refer to it as such.. granted, that phrase is used repeatedly in the literature and from the platform.. but it's obvious that much of what the organization used to require jws to teach house-to-house as important truths--even within our own lifetimes--has been abandoned.

it's been replaced by "new light" and "refined understanding.

what's meant by "the 1914 generation" is a prime example.. in fact, i think it would be hard to find another religion that has changed so many of its teachings, especially in such a short period of time.. so why do jws still believe their religion to be "the truth"?.

punkofnice

"The Truth"

It's verbal trickery. Weasel words. The term is used to convince the user that the Watchtower(tm) is correct.

I think it used to be called NLP. Neuro-linguistic programming is a way of changing someone's thoughts and behaviours. A propaganda technique.

How can you be 'in' the 'truth'?

that's why I never say 'when I was in the truth.' I will say 'when I was in the cult.'

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Was Jesus the Messiah circumcised ?

by smiddy3 in

has this question ever been raised before by jehovah`s witnesses?

and what`s the significance, if any ?.

punkofnice

Was Jesus the Messiah circumcised ?

I'd answer by saying that we need to prove he even existed before going to question his winkie.

Many start off with the premise that he existed.

He didn't write any books of the Bible (that was bunged together by some geezers who did a bit of an 'eenie meenie miny mo' for this).

There is absolutely no evidence of his existing outside of the Bible.

I know this character was supposed to be walking mysteriously and shizz, but come on.

The nearest are vagaries that can be crowbarred into the fiction.

Yep! First, prove this geezer existed outside of the Bible. I'll give a hint. No one can. It's all made up!

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UN and Governing Body and an accounting

by AnnaNana in

joseph and mary were not in a spiritually adulterous relationship with the roman authorities, the "legs of iron".

joseph and mary were not perfect.

the governing body of the modern-day organization of jehovah's witnesses is not perfect.

punkofnice

I think Anna has left the building, folks.

Hello and welcome, Linda. New here?

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“Hanging the earth upon nothing”

by FFGhost in

for those of you not up to speed on the latest jw trends, one of the key scriptures the jws are using in field serve-us lately is job 26:7, wherein the writer describes the earth as “hanging upon nothing”.. this text is used to indicate the bible’s “reliability”.

the reasoning goes something like this:.

“see, centuries ago, people thought the world was flat, or was resting on elephants or turtles, or some such nonsense.

punkofnice

Good post. Nice one Cyril!

There are so many things 'symbolic' that the Bible must be a load of old 'bolics.

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Judgment Day

by Fisherman in

a specific “day,” or period, when particular groups, nations, or mankind in general are called to account by god.

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“i solemnly charge you before god and christ jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead,”- 2 tim 4:1. seems like sins are not paid by dying or the ransom if there is a judgment in-spite of it.

punkofnice

Judgment Day

Pure fiction. It's not coming. Nothing will happen. How old are the writings that are used for this?

People are wasting their time on being Bible (or some other 'holy' writing. Pick your poison), 'intellectuals' with constant study over something wishful through rosy coloured glasses.

Judgement day would have come before now. It seems each generation (overlapping or not), thinks 'it' is coming in their life-time. Oh, my. Oh, my. How sad.

There's life out there. Stop wasting time on made up stuff.

Believe what you want, though. In my opinion, it's a massive waste of time.