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  The use of "Stumbled" as a Control Technique.

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i thought about this when i read the expression in another thread, "someone was stumbled", they would never tell you who the person was, and simply used it to control you, or it got worse, some times it was "you might stumble someone" .. who were these stumbling loons of which they spoke ?

  not only was it a control mechanism, it encouraged you to not be your real self, ever.. i liked the response of one of my jw relatives to this, where they expected him to change the person he was, he said "these people accusing me are not perfect are they ?

  no, well then, they cannot expect perfection from me".

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  Do you think they started this control technique deliberately, 1984 style, or it just naturally followed as the cult developed?
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  Does praying for “all those who are in positions of authority,” include the 'deep state' and all subsequent coverup's?

  by was a new boy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  definition of deep state.

  : an alleged secret network of especially nonelected government officials and sometimes private entities (as in the financial services and defense industries) operating extralegally to influence and enact government policy.

  the power of the deep state comes from experience, knowledge, relationships, insight, craft, special skills, traditions, and shared values.

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  We'll never know for sure, any of this because we are unimportant working class slaves.

  Thinking we know 'special' stuff is like being a Jobot again. We don't. We never will. We're just not that important. We are mere specks on the dusty shelf of life.
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  The use of "Stumbled" as a Control Technique.

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i thought about this when i read the expression in another thread, "someone was stumbled", they would never tell you who the person was, and simply used it to control you, or it got worse, some times it was "you might stumble someone" .. who were these stumbling loons of which they spoke ?

  not only was it a control mechanism, it encouraged you to not be your real self, ever.. i liked the response of one of my jw relatives to this, where they expected him to change the person he was, he said "these people accusing me are not perfect are they ?

  no, well then, they cannot expect perfection from me".

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  The whole 'stumbled(tm)' thing never made sense to me....even when I was a fully indoctrinated Jobot.

  If someone is 'stumbled(tm)', what does that say about them? Why are they so 'spiritually weak(tm)' in the first place?

  Like a lot of Jobot buzz words, they ARE used as control mechanisms.

  Consider 'in the truth(tm)'. If you repeat this to yourself you are tricking your mind in to believing you have the correct cult. I'm sure there is probably a Jobot Buzzword thread here somewhere...or perhaps we should start one including definitions of said buzzword.

  I'm not sure who this geezer is but he looks happy.....

  
  
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  WT Ruining Members' Futures

  by HiddlesWife in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what i mean by the title of this thread is what has happened to a relative of mine, one who is really upset about this factor:.

  this relative is a distant cousin on my mother's side of the family.

  she studied as a child and got baptized at 14 1/2 years old.

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  She is now WAKING UP, seeing that ALL of the things she did for the Borg and the DONATIONS she gave to it, THEY HAVE NOT HELPED HER IN ANY SHAPE, FORM, OR FASHION regarding her life at this juncture in time.

  This typifies at least for me, the experiences of many.

  It is my experience in many ways too.

  I don't know what to say, really. Once you realise all your efforts and 'contributions(tm)' are just so that the Governing Body(tm) (Pee be upon them), can protect paedophiles and keep TOMO3rd drunk.

  Religion is s snare and a racket.

  Hiddley. Just to confirm. VZ = Visitors?

  What is NI? Northern Ireland? I'm not up on these abbreviations.

  As with Truthy, isn't it funny how 'worldly(tm)' people are far more compassionate than the WBT$ likes to lie about.
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  Is Your Name in “the Book of Life?"

  by BruceX in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  here are 2 reviews about the recent watchtower study article "is your name in “the book of life?':.

  https://beroeans.net/2022/11/24/wt-fantasy/.

  https://michaeljfelker.com/2022/11/16/is-your-name-in-the-book-of-life-watchtower-study-review-september-2022/.

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  Supposing you get mixed up with someone who isn't in the book because you have the same name?

  As we know, God does make mistakes. It says so in the Bible, too.
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  Did YOU have 'princes' in YOUR congregation?

  by BoogerMan in

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  2. beliefs

  lol .

  w54 5/1 p. 277 par.

  17 - some of the “great crowd” are now serving in position of “princes,” .

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  roady - Imagine if MST did a Jobot meeting. That really would be the gauntlet!

  fooly - this sister would have the nerve to counsel my mother to comment with out an accent.

  Isn't this just typical of these sanctimonious types. the fact that she claimed to be 'anointed(tm)' shows the level of attention seeking they're at. Sad creatures.
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  Did YOU have 'princes' in YOUR congregation?

  by BoogerMan in

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  2. beliefs

  lol .

  w54 5/1 p. 277 par.

  17 - some of the “great crowd” are now serving in position of “princes,” .

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  Beth's Serum - Especially on the midweek meetings. They have these silhouettes doing demonstrations on monitors.

  Good grief. I thought there was nothing more bland than a Jobot TV show...........but silhouettes!?!?!

  I'm almost going into deep depression imagining that at a bore fest meeting.
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  Struggling to find a purpose

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i spent most of my life in the org.

  we were taught that our purpose in life was to serve jehovah.

  that never really made sense to me, but it was still a purpose to keep going.

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  ribby - I'm not sure I've seen that youtuber, but thanks for the heads-up.

  I doubt I'll ever visit America but who knows what the future will bring? Usually big bills that need paying.

  I've been seen on youtube a few times but when I was playing lead guitar in another band.
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  Those who have a religion in decline in England and Wales !

  by Phizzy in

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  2. current

  https://www.thenewselephant.co.uk/oh-shit-theyre-finally.... "oh shit, they're finally seeing through our bollocks!

  " say church leaders after england and wales revealed to be minority christian countries.

  good !.

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  Hey Fuzzy, got a 404 on the link.

  I thought the religion of the UK had changed to Islam now.
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  Everyone should be phlegmatic about the FIFA World Cup

  by BoogerMan in

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  2. humour

  because it's taking place in catarrh.

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  taking place in CATARRH.

  Know it's snot.