Posts by punkofnice

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Do Jehovah's Witnesses maintain a database of 'Sudden Deaths' within Bethel Families around the world?

by was a new boy in

99% were vaccinated.. .

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/studionewsreports/docid-702021091_1_video.

correction, there is no such thing as a bethel family, bethel hotel, yes, there always been bethelites coming and going.

punkofnice

Indy - it’s obvious that the shots killed most of the older older ones and many of the not so old older ones died due to the shots

Slidin Fast has a point here.

We might be leaning toward our own confirmation bias about the jabberoo, if we're not too careful.

I think, for us (at least me), to consider what you say seriously, I'd need to know numbers, reported causes of death. Over what period? How do we know they were all jabbed? In the case of old folk, they pop their clogs all the time. Why would we think the jab have terminated them sooner?

Or to put it simply....as Slidin rather rapidly said:

quote your evidence

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Being embarrassed by a JW when you were a JW

by punkofnice in

i was out on the ministry(tm) in the 1980's when i was pie-on-earring.

i was only a lowly publisher(tm) being coached by a rather odd elder(tm).. one of the publications(tm) had recently mentioned japan and the growth(tm) of jws there.. the elder(tm), brother(tm) i was with offered the magazines(tm) to the householder(tm).. then he stated, 'there are (gave the reported numbers at the time.

i can't remember the number he stated), jehovah's witnesses(tm) in japan.'.

punkofnice

I was out on the Ministry(tm) in the 1980's when I was pie-on-earring. I was only a lowly Publisher(tm) being coached by a rather odd Elder(tm).

One of the publications(tm) had recently mentioned Japan and the Growth(tm) of JWs there.

The Elder(tm), Brother(tm) I was with offered the magazines(tm) to the householder(tm).

Then he stated, 'There are (gave the reported numbers at the time. I can't remember the number he stated), Jehovah's witnesses(tm) in Japan.'

He then asked, 'Do you know why?'

H/H shook her head.

Then Brother Bonkers repeatedly smashed his fist into his palm and said in a loud voice, 'Because we dropped the bomb on them. That's why!!!'

Exit H/H. Exit me.

He wasn't the only completely didlow person I went on the ministry(tm) with.

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Prophets other than the FDS.

by LostintheFog1999 in

what does anyone think about the "famous people" who allegedly predicted the future?

edgar cayce, nostrodamus, etc.... are they just as much whack jobs as the wtb& ts?.

punkofnice

Foggy - What does anyone think about the "famous people" who allegedly predicted the future?

They're complete and utter mental cases. They need putting in a padded cell. Put in a straight jacket and medicated.

I'm sure just do it for money and/or attention seeking.

'I pity the fool' that believes their nonsense.

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March 2023 WT - Recruitment drive!

by BoogerMan in

dedicate your life to jehovah, by being baptized as a jw - not as a christian.

(a follower of christ - acts 11:26).

par.

punkofnice

dedicate yourself to Jehovah and to get baptized is the most important decision you will ever make.

Well, for starters, it's not to Jehovah(tm), it's to the Organisation(tm).

And of course, if it is the 'most important decision', no wonder the indoctrinated culties will not be ready.

TOMO needs his booze money, so they need bums on seats.

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Salvation: Faith alone OR works?

by JW Answers in

jehovah's witnesses run to the book of james staying that faith without works is dead.

they completely ignore the teachings of paul and hold onto james.

.. it would appear that there is a contradiction between james' teaching and paul's teaching, yet the bible tells us to rightly divide the word of truth.

punkofnice

Cofty - How to be saved by god from what god will do to us if we don't believe him.

Reminds me of the Mafia boss that holds a gun to your head and says, 'If you don't give me the money I'm not entitled to, I'll blow your head off.....and it's YOUR fault!'

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Staying in physically for all the benefits

by Indoubtbigtime in

i wonder how many are like me staying pimo for the great association and gathering etc.

also find it very interesting having a front row seat watching the collapse of borg.. im not wasting any more time or money on anything i don’t want to do like preaching and mostly just go on zoom .

there is nothing i want to do that would be considered disfellowshiping sin, i’m married and want to live by bible principles but i have serious doubts that the gb were chosen by god and are his one and only spokesmen on earth.

punkofnice

Nuffy - your disbelief in God doesn't spite the GB in the least

I didn't suggest that was ever my intention. Not sure how you arrived at that conclusion. Although, it is something my Mum would say. One thing doesn't lead to another. Maybe I am not explaining myself well. It is nearly Tea-time (Dinner time?), anyway. I'm at loathing the GB(tm) for making me believe their trash. (I'd normally say 'rubbish' but my friends over the Atlantic say trash and garbage), All of it.

Tonus said it better - I didn't stop believing in god because I left the JWs. I stopped being a JW when I realized I didn't believe in god.

Although I still believed after I left and went to Church to worship.

My position now, is that until proper evidence is presented, to prove a God/s exist/s, I will remain sceptical. I won't be fooled again. I think that's a very fair position, and considering different cultures preach a different deity/s. Why believe any of them? Just because it's more predominant in Western culture, doesn't mean it is true.

Bible, Quran, Zoroastrianism(I'll put my teeth back in), , Zen and more all think theirs is the way.

For now, Indy is in a bit of a spot.

Time will tell.

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Staying in physically for all the benefits

by Indoubtbigtime in

i wonder how many are like me staying pimo for the great association and gathering etc.

also find it very interesting having a front row seat watching the collapse of borg.. im not wasting any more time or money on anything i don’t want to do like preaching and mostly just go on zoom .

there is nothing i want to do that would be considered disfellowshiping sin, i’m married and want to live by bible principles but i have serious doubts that the gb were chosen by god and are his one and only spokesmen on earth.

punkofnice

Nuffy - You will get fed up some day and throw in the towel.

This is very true. At some stage it all gets a bit much.

they take their spite out on God himself

In my case, I take my spite out on the Governing Body(tm)(Pee be upon them) because I am no longer convinced there is a God.

Disbelief in God becomes convenient to some.

I'm sure in some cases this is true, Nuffy. In my case it's genuine and very inconvenient.

The Governing Body(tm)(Pee be upon them), have lied and continue to lie. I was a victim of their grift. Socratic questioning has taken me to a more logical place. Not a place I want to be, but hey, you gotta face facts. Facts don't care about feelings.

I loathe The child abuse enabling drunkards called the Governing Body(tm)(Pee be upon them)

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Staying in physically for all the benefits

by Indoubtbigtime in

i wonder how many are like me staying pimo for the great association and gathering etc.

also find it very interesting having a front row seat watching the collapse of borg.. im not wasting any more time or money on anything i don’t want to do like preaching and mostly just go on zoom .

there is nothing i want to do that would be considered disfellowshiping sin, i’m married and want to live by bible principles but i have serious doubts that the gb were chosen by god and are his one and only spokesmen on earth.

punkofnice

Indy - I wonder how many are like me staying PIMO for the great association and gathering etc.

I wouldn't go as far as 'great association'. these people are not real friends because they'd drop you in a heartbeat if you got DF'd. True friends stick with you no matter what.

Also find it very interesting having a front row seat watching the collapse of Borg.

Sorry to let you down...but.....You'll have a long wait. Nothing much will happen except they'll perhaps, change their business model.

want to live by Bible principles

Bible principles or the Corporations(tm) interpretation of them?

I have serious doubts that the GB were chosen by God

He didn't. It's obvious. I'm not sure I believe in God, so to me the point is moot.

Look at what was said at the Australian Royal Commission.............

Geoff Jackson at the Australian Royal Commission Aug 15
Angus Stewart Q. And do you see yourselves as Jehovah God's spokespeople on earth?
Jackson answered. “That I think, would seem to be quite presumptuous to say that we are the only spokesperson that God is using. “

This raises lots of questions about the GB(tm) (Pee be upon them). The implications are massive. I'll bet you a pound to a pinch of snuff, everyone in your Congregation(tm) won't know anything about the ARC into child abuse within the Organisation(tm).

how any Jdubs are going to have mental breakdowns and serious emotional problems over the next few decades as they slowly realise the big A is not coming and they were lied to

A lot of us have and still do. the Corporation(tm) is an evil entity. But, it will remain for a long time.

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Two New Members of the Governing Body

by Diogenesister in

breaking news from jw.org..... "we are pleased to inform you that two additional brothers have been appointed to serve as members of the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses: brothers gage fleegle and jeffrey winder.

both brothers are anointed christians who have a long history of loyal service to jehovah.

brother fleegle began his full-time service in 1989 and bethel service in 1991. brother fleegle has served as a helper to the service committee of the governing body.

punkofnice

I wonder how 'Winder' is pronounced?

As in Wind-bag or Wine Bibber?

As for Fleegle. Banana Splits?

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Should Jehovah's Witnesses Trust the Governing Body?

by Vanderhoven7 in

if there is evidence that jesus invisibly chose specific men at headquarters in brooklyn new york in 1919 to be his faithful slave and that mandate and ability passed on to future directors...then the answer might just be a resounding maybe.. what is the evidence for this invisible appointment and what is the evidence that this is just watchtower mythology?.

i hope jws like scholar and fisherman will explain why the trust the gb.. i must be honest, i see no evidence at all to put trust in either the 1919 selection or the current men taking the lead in warwick.

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punkofnice

Anyone would think the Governing Body(tm) (Pee be upon them) of Jehovah's Witnesses(tm), were not promoting themselves. (He said ironically).

They have been ramming this home into the Jobots from time immemorial. No wonder the Jobots are hypnotised by it all. Keep repeating a lie until everyone believes it....and so on.

I don't believe for one minute they even believe this themselves because at their level, they must know it's just a corrupt big business pretending to be a religion.

If they were a bona fide religion, their top brass wouldn't be drunkards and they would take measures to stamp out child molesters, not protect them, whatever the cost to their reputation.

If God is with them, who can be against them?