Deacon,
This list is all well and good, but I now have the "ticks" all over the place..........everything is ticked!!!
Any cure??
Ana
1/.milieu control: control of the group environment and communication .
2/.manipulation: leaders are perceived as being chosen by god, history or some supernatural force.
salvation can only be attained through the cult .
Deacon,
This list is all well and good, but I now have the "ticks" all over the place..........everything is ticked!!!
Any cure??
Ana
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revenue: $951 million.
Kent,
Thankyou for posting all the info that you do. This was particularly interesting as I have always wanted to know how much money is in the ORG..........well....whew.........where does it all go???????
Ana
ps.....Kent, I like researching, but what are BOE letters and things that you are looking for.......I am a search engine freak!!!
i just wanted to say my personal thanks as an american citizen to all of you whose governments have been so supporive and who are stepping up as friends during this difficult time.
i particularly thank england for her solid support even in small things like this.
it means a lot to me that others should care and share our pain.. "in an unprecedented move the us national anthem will be played during a special changing of the guard ceremony to be held at buckingham palace at 1130bst on thursday.".
Grunt,
That was a lovely post to read. I hope you realise that all of us around the world are really feeling this along with you.
Fark: You are a DF................you always give me a laugh even if I feel sad........hey.......where is my Pavanne?????
Ana
as interested persons study with jws in the knowledge book they are presented with the appealing prospect of living forever on a paradise earth.
as they near the end of the book, the new studnet is faced with a salesman's 'close' technique in chapter 19 "when the knowledge of god fills the earth".. but the picture painted is not 'the whole picture'.
notice, for example, page 183, paragraph 8 which states: "at last, they will see the faces of their loved ones!
Thanks OZ,
That really makes a sour cake look like a sweet pudding to those outside!!!
Catch 22....no winners really.
Ana
my father in law just called me to see how we were doing here this evening.
i was glad to hear from him, but of course i got a good dose of jw reasoning along with the concern.. he mentioned he was on his way to a dentists appointment this morning and was listening to the awake!
magazine on tape.
I am expecting the phone call tonight. And we all know what type of phone call I mean, don't we????
This is the beginning of the end, and look how Jah looked after Bethel.........UGH
If this happens I just know I cannot shut my mouth against their dribble anylonger.
I just wish they could all walk through that rubble and get a real life taste of what they so gleefully look forward to.
Sorry for venting......emotional for all of us at the moment.
Love and Care to all USA
Ana
as interested persons study with jws in the knowledge book they are presented with the appealing prospect of living forever on a paradise earth.
as they near the end of the book, the new studnet is faced with a salesman's 'close' technique in chapter 19 "when the knowledge of god fills the earth".. but the picture painted is not 'the whole picture'.
notice, for example, page 183, paragraph 8 which states: "at last, they will see the faces of their loved ones!
Hi Oz,
Thanks for the post, but could you clarify a point for me?
I was of the understanding that death paid the penalty of all sin so that in effect all non JW's and exJW's would be resurrected.
This is what I was taught. Please correct me if they have changed this with "new light"?
Ana
for those of us who are european, we know first hand the brutality of terrorism.
england endured attacks from the close neigbour northern ireland for a long time, italy france and spain, along with germany endured homegrown versions of the same.. the us finally joins the ranks of the rest of the planet, in having more than a taste of the evilness of brutal sudden invasion of familiar and personal territory, and will have to grow up fast in the realities of the way of the world.. i awoke early this morning to the pictures of death and mayhem, and my mind turned back over the past 20 some years of my experience with the aftermath of violent conflict, be it one sided, sudden and devasting in its effect.
the memory bank started in overtime, recalling the so familiar pattern of emotions, numbness, shock, fear, despair, anger, sadness....and now i watch the same thing hit the shores of america, affecting all the peoples as if they were one.. as a person, once closely involved in the repair of humanity, both physical and mental, my heart grieves for those that have suddenly lost loved ones, for those who will forever be affected by the inflicting of one persons ideas and actions upon others....it is wrong and unloving, and oh so very human...to decide that ones personal message or belief is of greater import than others.. the american authorities will speed up their work to find the perpertrators of this heinous action, and then we will see if the present government is strong enough to keep this country together without inflicting the residents with yet another long drawn out war because of revenge.
Deacon,
I have nothing to add to this beatiful post other than to thank you for posting it.
Emotions are running high for all countries at present and none of us are exempt from feeling sadness and grief at this horrific tragedy.
Ana
whether you believe in god or not, i hope you will join the peace-loving people of the world in memorial or prayer for the families and the ones lost in this tragedy.
there are likely to be some equally or surpassing brutal retaliation in the days and months ahead.
many more innocents are probably going to die....... after the idiots in the arab countries stop partying i hope they start thinking about just how they are now bona-fide targets.
Rex,
My son and I stayed up nearly all night as we saw what happened in USA.
Today the streets in this big city are like a ghost town.
Last night all my love and thoughts were with America........they still are.
All USA citizens.....please be well and safe.
Ana
hi, folks.
i know nytelecom works nearby (across the river?
), but i can tell you all that today has been (and will continue to be for a loooong time) the single most bizarre, surreal event i have witnessed.. i work in an office building at 26 broadway in manhattan, about 10 blocks from the world trade towers.
((((((Michael))))))
((((((NYT))))))
Love to both of you.........so sad that you both had to suffer this ordeal. My thoughts are with you both and the whole of USA.
Ana
"i'm robert peterson".
when i left, wendy said it had been a happy day.
i'm robert peterson.
I'm happy that some of you enjoyed it........tonight I think of USA and hope with all my heart that anyone here has all their loved ones safe........
Love,
Ana