At my mom's Witness funeral, a 'Sister' came up to me, I thought that she would offer her condolences. Instead she said " I can't believe that your not wearing pink. After all that was your mom's favorite color." AND not a word of condolence either.
a couple of days ago i went to the funeral of an old age brother in his 80s.. well, that was the typical jw funeral although his daughter and the rest of his family are not witnesses.
as you know the brothers don't wear black clothes nor they show lot of sadness as a "prove" they believe in resurrection.. the problem this time is some of them went too far.
two sisters had red clothing and at the entrance a group of brothers were literally laughing.
At my mom's Witness funeral, a 'Sister' came up to me, I thought that she would offer her condolences. Instead she said " I can't believe that your not wearing pink. After all that was your mom's favorite color." AND not a word of condolence either.
these are the countries with 80 to 89.99% internet penetration:.
these are the countries with 70 to 79.99% internet penetration:.
these are the countries with 60 to 69.99% internet penetration:.
Wow Cedars! I'm impressed by your interesting graphs and information. It seems to me that the WTSociety is calling the kettle black in warnings against the internet while they have their own internet site for providing religious consumption. It reminds me of a quote from Sigmund Freud: " The more the fruits of knowledge become accessible to men, the more widespread is the decline of religious belief"
my 80 something year old mom is a die hard jw, but to her credit, she has not shunned me.
as would be expected, she is always "praying" that i return to jah and get reinstated.
is consistent...every time my wife and i see her, she always tries to steer the conversation to "how bad the world" has become.. today, she escalated the "theocratic attack" by coming out directly and asking me what i thought of world conditions.
I can feel that many of you are frustrated with your parents like me....raised in the organization, pioneered, ministerial servant and elder until I was 50. I feel the organization left me I didn't leave it. I couldn't be a hypocrite and go to peoples doors or speak from the stage about a time table the organization said was from Jah that wasn't true.
My heart goes out to all of you who have parents as I do still loyal to the organization. My Mom and Dad in there Mid and late 80's like yours and see things only one way and I have come to realize that is OK. We still clash at times as they try to control me. I get upset that they don't see how what we were taught has changed and is no longer the truth and how a group of men tring to keep things together are reinventing and streaching a concept not truly from scripture to keep people in the fold.
We have to reallize that there is something that we saw or found in our hearts that changed us. Our parents have to see that for themselves as well. Most importantly we must never forget that a true spiritual person is measured not my how many times you go to meetings, comment or hours in field ministry but by the amount of love they allow to come in and out of there lives.
did you ever encounter jw's who claimed to be able to "sense" when somthing "dodgy" read demon posscessed was in the room?.
i've got several jw relatives who reckon that jehovah protects them by allowing them to sense this... "i always had a funny feeling about that lump of coral!".
iteams they have thrown out ( and in one case also run over several times with a bicycle just in case there was any residual demons left in it) are :.
We must be related...my in-laws are exactly like that!!
i've wondered this for sometime.
to all of the jws on the forum, what is your opinion on medical cannabis?
i support it for a couple of reasons.. 1. i've battled clinical depression since age 9. after my anti-depressants stopped working when i was 21, i heard about cannabis' positive effects on depression through the internet and a couple of documentaries so i tried it.
The elders in my sons congregation had already decided amongst themselves that if a drug offence ever came up again in the cong. there would be no mercy. My son who had been suffering with back pain for years with no relief from conventional medicine was given a legal prescription for medicial marijuana. It was amazing how effective this drug was in getting him out of pain. Well...his wife, a Regular Pioneer felt it was her duty to inform the elders of this. The first meeting with him, he was informed that there would by no mercy for him and he would be removed from the congregation in a effort to keep the congregation clean. His plea for mercy based on this being a legal prescription fell on stubborn deaf ears. So when the announcement was made to cong of his being Df'd much shock and murmuring when on as this was a fine Bro who was spiritually active in the cong and supporting his wifes pioneering. The next meeting there was a special needs talk given about not questioning the Elders. When the CO came around recently he came to my son to encourage him to take steps to return, he told him that the elders now have changed their view on medical marijuana. It's been over 5 yrs now and not once have the elders approached him.EVER they won't speak to him even when he goes to KHall to support his wife and children when they have parts on the program. By now he has no desire to be apart of the cong again. Not just 'sour grapes' but he sees no love from the Bros, still condemnation. Why go back to that again?
i've always wanted to go on a hot air ballon ride but i'm soooooooooo scared to do it.. has anyone on here ever done it.
how much does it cost?.
Several years ago while visiting the wine country of Napa, we got up very early to go to on our balloon ride. We had been seeing the beautiful colorful balloons for several days so we were really excited to have this experience. Well the winds were not in our favor and so after much waiting, we finally got the go ahead. So up we went, over the beautiful vineyards, but alas, the winds dissapeared and so down we went with a hard bang and a long skid tearing up rows of vines as we careened to a final stop in a gully. I tell you, after that experience I am totaly content to enjoy the hot air balloons with my two feet firmly on the ground.
ive been sad.i miss him alot.but i must say,it is very nice to not be hearing all of the "doom and gloom" all of the time.the "we will all be in paradise except you,and even tho i wont be supposed to,ill still miss you" speech.
{still chokes me up a bit}.hell,yeah,i miss my dad,and feel like i was robbed of many years of a good life with him by the jw's and their petty doctrines and spys.i still have my mum,and she goes to the meetings occasionally,but she knows the deal.my dad was just too damaged from his time in aushweitz to really ever be happy of free.poor soul.i hope he has found some solace and peace at last.dad,i still love you,even tho you made my life hell with the jw thing,i know you were doinf it cause you really did believe it...but its nice to be away from it.i hope he is at peace at last......
At times during the grieving process, we mourn the loss of the person for what they were, but also for the person for what they were not. You find yourself grieving the relationship which was never what you wanted it to be, and you're grieving the loss of hope that it might have gotten better. Whichever way your memory goes,..embrace the person fully in their humanity...the good, the bad, and the ugly. I am so sorry for your loss and am sending heart healing thoughts across the miles....
this has been asked before, however i thought it may be good for newer members of the board to read some of our reasons on how we decided to exit the jw cult and why we decided to do it the way we did.. first off - i have been faded for almost 8 years.
essentially i decided to fade into inactivity and not da because i have elderly jw parents who would shun me if i did get dfed or daed myself.
also- i like keeping open the possibilities that some of my many jw relatives may in time start doubting and have questions and reach out to me in my inactive state.
My hubby and I have been fading for the past 11yrs. We chose to do it this way out of respect for our elderly parents. We never speak out against their faith, yet kindly listen when they want to talk.
i was officially diagnosed today.
started out a little over a week ago with pain in my back, and a week ago the rash appeared.
according to the dr, it seems i have been through the worst, and should clear in a week or so.
Well, the kitchen is foreign territory for him.
i was officially diagnosed today.
started out a little over a week ago with pain in my back, and a week ago the rash appeared.
according to the dr, it seems i have been through the worst, and should clear in a week or so.
I am in my 9th week of Shingles. The nerve pain is just now getting tolerable. I can't remember the month of June at all as I was in a 'pain brain haze'. I wouldn't wish this on my worse enemy and I can think of a few who would qualify. I'll tell ya how bad I was: my husband has lost 20lbs!.....