Posts by DesirousOfChange

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When did WT lose the spirit?

by Smiles in

at what time would you say that the watch tower schema lost the spirit?.

like the ancient nation of israel which struggled maintaining divine blessing due to a long series of grave errors that eventually culminated in definitive loss... how and when did watch tower lose the spirit?.

can we pinpoint a time or event?.

DesirousOfChange

I like this kind of approach as well.

This is not a debate as to whether JWs ever had God's Spirit. This is to get a (doubtful) JW to start thinking.

I like to ask if all the "weird" chances might be because and "apostate" has infiltrated the higher echelons of the JW Org. Would Jah allow that? He did in the 1980's, didn't he? Remember Ray Franz? (NOT that Ray was an apostate. Just that that is what WTS claims.)

Lots of JWs are skeptical about all the "New Light". You know what happens once a person begins to question thing...... One domino......two dominoes............BAM

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Now we have a Mary Trump book coming out ...

by RubaDub in

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i have to admit, this president can stir up shit.

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other than some people who failed 10th grade or have a confederate flag on the back of their pickup trucks, who actually likes him?.

DesirousOfChange

Biden's presidency will most likely be leadership by committee.

Biden's presidency would most likely be leadership by his VP candidate.

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Quit Quietly now more than ever

by gone for good in

the amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.

- no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.

make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).

DesirousOfChange

We played the "stumbled" card when we had the opportunity. But I guess they were glad to see us go. A couple of calls from "friends". One visit from "new" elders. No longer do we even get a Memorial invitation.

We're just "waiting on Jehovah" to fix the "problems" we see.

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"The Best Convention Ever" - 2020 starts today

by bats in the belfry in

dress up for the show.

... and now please be seated.

proudly presenting your 2020 convention program.. ... and, thank god, for the ff button on my player.

DesirousOfChange

maybe for my wife and I a quart of orange juice mixed with a pint of vodka will be preferable

I like your plan for listening to a JW assembly! (Tho you are mixing it a little "weak". Not sure I can associate with anyone/anything "weak".)

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Phone Reverse Witnessing

by Vanderhoven7 in

i think this gal is incredible.

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https://youtu.be/pbms453asdo.

DesirousOfChange

"Obviously she lacks the right kind of heart to be sought by Jehovah."

Anyone who doesn't just lay down and accept what JW's say is The Troof, is just not "worthy". Quit throwing pearl before swine.

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In the USA, why so often is the vote for President just a vote against someone?

by RubaDub in

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in my lifetime, (i will include kennedy even though i was probably breast-feeding at the time), but it seems that there have been relatively few presidents that we vote "for.

" my list would be kennedy, reagan, clinton and obama.

i'm not talking about their politics here but who generally got voted for, instead of simply voting against.. any thoughts?.

DesirousOfChange

The national parties have become the true power in the U.S. If a politician wants to get elected he or she must worship at the feet of the party leaders and by party leaders

This is the SWAMP. They all hate Trump because he is not one of them.

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Do You Believe Polls Saying Trump Will Lose To Biden?

by minimus in

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a new fox poll says biden is up by 12 percentage points.

of course, most other polls say trump will be trounced this time around.. do you think the polls might be right this time?

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DesirousOfChange

President Sleep Joe Biden ?? Really ??

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Watchtower Sudy 12 July.the Kings of North & South (from 05/20 issue)

by BluesBrother in

it is a challenge next sunday for them .

due to starting the convention programme the wt study will be a 30 minute run through ,and deals with this prophecy ... i doubt the younger ones are familiar with it at all bur oldies could debate it at length .we on the look out for the king of the north to enter "the land of decoration" (more to follow,maybe next week).

this article makes a grand claim in par 2.

DesirousOfChange

"And even though God’s servants make up only a small portion of the world’s population, they are often at the center of major world events."

Narcissists. And many JWs adopt that grandiose self-importance of themselves.

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Now we have a Mary Trump book coming out ...

by RubaDub in

jw
friends

i have to admit, this president can stir up shit.

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other than some people who failed 10th grade or have a confederate flag on the back of their pickup trucks, who actually likes him?.

DesirousOfChange

I think this COVID-19 thing is messing things up. I find myself putting on hand sanitizer and a mask when I go and take a piss.

I remember when all you had to do was wear a condom and you could anything you damn well pleased and feel safe! (Whether that was a false sense of security, you be the judge. At least you FELT safe.)

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I’m Seeing Some Trump Fatigue Out There

by minimus in

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i’ve heard from a few trump voters that they are getting tired of the whole trump thing.

one person yesterday said he lies.

another person said she hears from her clients in her business that the constant drama and push back from all sides against trump is fatiguing.. i remind people that before this worldwide pandemic, we had the best numbers in jobs.

DesirousOfChange

Well, the past 3 days the new cases and deaths have both spiked up.

Must be from the damn bars, beaches, and rallys -- because we know the protesters were not an issue.