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There is every reason to believe that Lloyd is controlled opposition of Watchtower ~ NCC
I've heard that stated, but I've seen nothing that would suggest LE actually HELPED the Cult. I do have to admit that I think he probably assisted in the "wake up call" for some JWs. JMHO
Do I think he is a "nice person"? No!
Does appear he is trying to capitalize/profit on his advocacy? For sure!
Were the Watergate hearings also just political theater? Tricky Dick made the mistake of staying loyal to his friends who f**ked up. No evidence he had any hand in the planning of the break in. It was the Cover Up that took him down. (Now, our Pols don't even have to cover up shit. The MSM does it for them! IF they are Democrats.)
How about the impeachment of Bill Clinton? ---- Most Definitely. Bill getting a BJ is just morally corrupt. Now, the Clinton Foundation Money Scheme, THAT's corruption at it's finest. But when Hill didn't get elected it fell apart. But no one cares about that.
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You know that feeling you have in your gut when you learned you have been conned for years by the WT Borg? For me it was, How could I be so gullible? or How could I be so blind? Why did I give so much of my time, assets, and "blood" for this Cult? I think probably everyone here knows of what I speak.
I wonder if it isn't the same with the folks still carrying on about LE? Did he dupe so many and "abuse" so many, and they just cannot "let it go"? Did he "cut" them so deeply that it's a really long healing process?
I never got on the LE train because he was such a "windbag". He could always ramble on for 2 hours over any issue that could have been explained/exposed/beaten-to-death in 10 minutes. Guess I was lucky. (I mean fortunate.)
i was wondering is sir82 still alive?
he has been po for many years.
he said that he would not leave the org unless his wife is pomo.
There a quite a few "old timers" that I miss seeing here. I hope the situation is that they have moved on to the stage of being Ex-ExJWs.
with all the bethel leaks.
i started to think about the levels of pimos with in bethel as apposed to the rank and file.
would there be higher rates of pimos bethel due to seeing the more unsavoury side of it.
Would there be higher rates of PIMOs Bethel due to seeing the more unsavoury side of it.
I never "served" at Bethel. But I was an elder for many years and I was involved in the Borg politics at the Circuit and District level. The higher you go, the more evident is all the politics and bullshit. I would not be surprised that someone at Bethel sees a lot more BS goings on there than the average R&F JW lapping up the Koolaid.
It is merely a televised theatrical spectacular that is completely 100% politics. This same group of "concerned" politicians who want "the truth" to be revealed totally ignore the Biden Crime Syndicate, BLM corruption, and other "lefty" radicals (like Auntie Maxine and her calls for violence).
I thought Trump (2016) would be a joke or else a RINO (since he had plenty of rubbing of shoulders with the Democrats). But he was (as anyone would have been) the better choice over Crooked Hillary. It was the best 4 years of governance (as well as prosperity) I've seen in decades. I truly believe he wanted to "fix" America. I can see no greed (unlike the Biden and Clinton families) in his presidency. He served 4 years and accepted no salary -- something no other president has ever done -- even the rich ones.
i know there was a leak a few weeks back, but this really does seem to have come out of the blue.. the anomaly was the original decision.
it clearly had no basis in law or the constitution, and was a flimsy, ridiculous ruling.
plus the whole thing was based on a fraudulent case in the first place.. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61928898.
What I find ironic is this -- over 75% of abortions are performed on "people of color" -- primarily blacks and Latinos. These are the people that the democrats claim to support, yet they still support "killing" them off. There is clear evidence that Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, knew that primarily black babied would be aborted by this procedure. Seems like the Dems were intent on killing off more of "their base".
saluting the flag was something not encountered very often here in the 1970s uk, in fact that kind of nationalism or patriotism was something i'd been warned about as a young boy, being brought up in the jehovah's witnesses from age 4, through meetings and the publications.
at some point, i don't know when, i decided it was more american, whether rightly or wrongly.. but even so, there was a large black and white photo of our entire school in panoramic format right outside my classroom on the wall saluting the flag, and i think this was the 1977 25 year jubilee of queen elizabeth ii.. now as a young person attending a fairly religious school in the 1970's, you were used to "making a stand" for things, letter in hand first day in a new class, and being ushered into one room or another to avoid religious assemblies and other xmas, and other seasonal celebrations.. one day the teachers, in their abundant wisdom, stood myself and a younger witness in the corridor right outside the assembly hall where the children would filter past.
every second or third child that filtered past would ask, "why are you standing there?
Teachers can be shitty people.
Ain't that right!
Look at some of the bat-shit crazy stuff the Teachers Union and (ultra liberal) teaching are touting here in the USA.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/v4uvpx/art_therapy/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&utm_term=link.
Those are great!
Wonder if we could copy them with Legos?
i know this subject has been talked about lots over the years, just thought i would share a recent finding from canada.. while visiting with a group of friends, an elder (don’t recall how the subject came up) mentioned the local body had voted to allow brothers with beards be allowed to give talks from the platform.
(it was a very close vote).
the direction given was for each congregation to decide for themselves if that is now acceptable.. so some congregations will be for, and for many it will not.. it’ll probably be a long time before we see any pictures on the watchtower where they’re allowing this though..
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