DesirousOfChange

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  Deleting Elders Watchtower Style

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  the only spirit-directed organization on earth never ceases to amaze me.. https://www.youtube.com/live/0u2ohrbdm-c?feature=share.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I was that guy, when they told me that I was going to be deleted as an elder, I'd say ... "you know what, thanks."

  THE BRAIN DRAIN

  There must be a lot of issues like this for WT to justify production of this video. And, I'd say they have lost many of their "best" elders (ie, "smartest" elders who made decisions such as seeking out higher education for their children) or else there would not be the need to provide videos for most of the meeting content today. Most Congs just do not have competent elders.

  Yes, "THANKS!" is the correct response!
  
  
  
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  Deleting Elders Watchtower Style

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the only spirit-directed organization on earth never ceases to amaze me.. https://www.youtube.com/live/0u2ohrbdm-c?feature=share.

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  DesirousOfChange

  A video that lasts 1:56:03 and it's only Part 1? I'm sure I can spend whatever time I have left in more worthwhile pursuits.

  The new LE? Likes to hear himself speak.
  
  
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  Is WT Teachig on Hell Biblical?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
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  i guess you could say jesus was the first christian, since he was the christ.

  and as the first christian, jesus spoke more about hell that any other biblical figure.

  but, he is also the figure that said that he didn't come to condemn the world, but to save it.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Why not make a Christian doctrine out of Eccl. 10: 19 too?

  Many, many have done so.
  
  
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  What would you change?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m agnostic so maybe the universe started by chance or by design.. if it was by design (hypothetically) and the bible is the designers word, and jws seem to be the closest to it, then what would be the largest things you would change?.

  here are a few ideas.

  -do away with the governing body thinking they are gods only channel.

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  DesirousOfChange

  which organisation [sic] do you think is closer to the truth than JWs? ~ ExB

  Clearly, it depends on how you define "the truth". Or are you referring to "Da Troof" as JWs do? You must face the facts that "Da Troff" (what JW's state is true) is FAR from TRUTHFUL or FACTUAL.

  For starters: No Armageddon or Great Tribulation or "rapture" in 1914. Or 1925. Or circa 1940. Or 1975. Or by the conclusion of the 20th Century. ALL UNTRUTHFUL STATEMENTS or PREDICTIONS or PROPHESIES.

  And the list goes on.........and on..........and on..........just as do The Last Days. (Ya know why they refer to them as The Last Days? Because they last.........and they last.............and they last.......etc)
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  2023-Price-Per-Publisher!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  2023-price per publisher.. .

  https://imgbox.com/jshf0csu .

  atlantis!.

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  Jws getting drunk

  by Farmer Jim1 in

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  has anyone got any good 'jws and alcohol' stories?

  i always found it amazing that so many jws got blind drunk at parties and got away with it!

  i suppose alcohol was the only fun thing we were allowed to partake in....

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  DesirousOfChange

  JW weddings in the 70's were notorious for "overdrinking".
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  "outside of time" argument

  by Blotty in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is going to be very brief but a user recently tried to argue an argument that has already been refuted many times - the logic is somewhat sound but falls apart when the definition to the word used it looked and its usages in the bible.the word in question is "aionas" found in the scripture in question hebrews 1:2 .

  (https://biblehub.com/hebrews/1-2.htm#lexicon)for starters look at the biblehub translations - do any of them state "outside of time" or that time was "created" in this moment - no because this seems to be heavily inspired by greek philosophy rather than the bible itself.note: i am not saying this word does not mean eternity or anything of the sort, i am saying this scripture some of the claims i dispute and can easily disprove, hence the argument is laughable.. bill mounce defines the word as:pr.

  a period of time of significant character; life; an era; an age: hence, a state of things marking an age or era; the present order of nature; the natural condition of man, the world; ὁ αἰών, illimitable duration, eternity; as also, οἱ αἰῶνες, ὁ αἰῶν τῶν αἰώνων, οἱ αἰῶνες τῶν αἰώνων; by an aramaism οἱ αἰῶνες, the material universe, heb.

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  Armageddon is just beginning

  by TheEndIsNear in

  1. social
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  do you want to know what is really behind the fake coronavirus pandemic, so-called vaccines and the war in ukraine?

  to understand current events, you must first learn the history.

  the world's biggest secret is that there have been tremendous global disasters in the past that decimated populations and caused the collapse of empires.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Ever hear of a "paragraph"? Or better yet, SEVERAL paragraphs?

  Is this part of the Da Vinci Code?
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  Do You Think Trump Is Done?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  certain forces appear to be trying to make sure donald trump never runs for president again.

  some republicans are clearly abandoning trump and of course the democratic press has been saying trump is done!

  is trump’s goose cooked?

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  DesirousOfChange

  it becomes apparent that Mike Pence is a primary source.

  His career in politics is over. I expect he will become a "contributor" on the Sunday morning talk shows.
  
  
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  Jeffrey Jackson: Too much excitement got in the way for the ''false dates''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
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  annual meeting 2019—talks and 2020 year textthe governing body members are nothing but a bunch of weasels.

  here is a talk by jeffrey jackson on how the governing body ''the slave class'' has remained spiritually awake over 100 years and alerted its members.. he looks back on the ''faithful and discreet slaves'' false dates over the 100 years: '' but at times, we look back over 100 years, and there were times they got excited about a certain year or time, and the end didn't come at that time.''.

  he makes the comparison between the ''slave class ( who disappointed others when the end didn't come ) to a barking watchdog ( who in his enthusiasm barks at nothing in the middle of the night and wakes up the owner).

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  DesirousOfChange

  Come on, guys! Quit bullying the GB!

  They are just imperfect men who, although "empowered by Holy Spirit; assisted by angels; and guided by God's Word" might err in matters of doctrine or organizational direction. (Feb 2017 WT Par 12)

  Aren't they allowed to screw up on occasion?

  [Sarcasm Alert for our slow learners]