It is pretty easy to get their grift, unless you are just gullible.
A lot of us were pretty damn gullible for a long time. Way too long in my case. It seems a lot of people are still that gullible.
DesirousOfChange
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2024 when will Witnesses admit they are wrong???
by Witness 007 in1914 generation is long gone.
1975 was a joke 40 years ago.
i know of many witnesses still hanging on for armagedon but when will they give up?
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ARTICLE: Jehovah’s Witnesses investing more than $50M on Woodbury project
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://libn.com/2024/03/04/jehovahs-witnesses-investing-more-than-50m-on-woodbury-project/.
long island business news.
march 4, 2024. the christian congregation of jehovah’s witnesses, which bought the former geico property in woodbury for $27 million in dec. 2022, plans to spend at least another $23 million to build an assembly hall and two support buildings on about half of the site.
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DesirousOfChange
I can see NO GOOD REASON for purchasing this property other than consolidating nursing facilities for retirees.
THAT WOULD BE A SHOCKER! WTS has always had the practice of sending retirees (or just those who are past their prime) "back to field" -- meaning "go get a job" or if it's older COs or DOs, they just send them to a Cong that has an apartment and enough affluent JWs to care for them.
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ARTICLE: Jehovah’s Witnesses investing more than $50M on Woodbury project
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://libn.com/2024/03/04/jehovahs-witnesses-investing-more-than-50m-on-woodbury-project/.
long island business news.
march 4, 2024. the christian congregation of jehovah’s witnesses, which bought the former geico property in woodbury for $27 million in dec. 2022, plans to spend at least another $23 million to build an assembly hall and two support buildings on about half of the site.
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DesirousOfChange
FIFTY MILLION?
It does not appear like they are so hard up for money as their monthly videos have suggested.
The assembly hall, which will have about 2,100 auditorium seats and parking for about 700 vehicles, will be used almost exclusively on weekends for about 75 days a year, according to a Jehovah’s Witnesses website for the project.
There are more than 8,000 Jehovah’s Witnesses congregants in Nassau and Suffolk counties who meet at 21 Kingdom Halls throughout the Island8000 JWs in 21 Kingdom Halls -- That only accounts for about 10 days to be used for Cir Assm & Spec Assm days. Maybe another 10 weekends for Reg Convs.
Gosh! Wonder what the daily "contribution" per publisher will be to use the new Assm Hall?
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New light on shunning?
by Mikejw inone theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.
he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .
what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.
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Wasn’t there a change in the past about 50 years ago or something like that where they relaxed the rules on shunning? ~ Tonus
In addition to what Tonus stated, back in the 1970's there was a period of time when the shunning was relaxed towards DF who were not continuing to practice sin and not opposers to the WT, such as someone attending with the intent to be reinstated.
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the toll of being PIMO
by enoughisenough infor those of you who are pimo, how do you feel it may be effecting your mental and physical health?
is it easy to pretend to be what you are not?
how do you feel about falsely supporting the pimi which builds them up and therefore an org you don't believe in?
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DesirousOfChange
During this time (8 years). I was a man without an identity, lost.... only a shadow of a person.
My heart goes out to each and every xjw because most go through something like this.SeaBreeze, when I read your post, I was overwhelmed with memories of that empty feeling. "Without an identity" defines it well. I had been a very respected, "prominent" elder (circuit & district parts, delegate and speaker at an international assembly). Then there was that moment I came to the realization that I was NOT in "The Truth". Everything I had believed came crashing down. I was able to see beyond the curtain. It was all A LIE!
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1970's Russell Pyramid Photo!
by Atlantis in1970's photo of the russell pyramid.
the picture was sent to us by a former bethelite who was also the person who took the picture.
of course, the pyramid is not there anymore.. .
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Click the link -- Had no idea it was so big!
(That's what she said.)
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2024 when will Witnesses admit they are wrong???
by Witness 007 in1914 generation is long gone.
1975 was a joke 40 years ago.
i know of many witnesses still hanging on for armagedon but when will they give up?
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Internal Watchtower Statistics Re: Disfellowshipping and Shunning
by NotFormer indoes the wt have a person/department/section tasked with compiling data and analysing it statistically.
or have they started doing something like that now that they are hiring external consultancies?.
i ask the question because i'm wondering if such studies and statistical analysis would show any link between the harshness of the disfellowshipping policy as it is applied and the dropout rate of people within the organisation who have just had enough.. in previous threads it has been pointed out that the old approach isn't effective any more.
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DesirousOfChange
I was actually trying to be sarcastic, ~ NotFormer
This has been a learning experience. Now you know that one has to "ring the sarcasm alert" so you don't confuse some of the slow learners.
(Hope I did not come across as nasty posting this. I assure you, no malicious intent.)
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ARTICLE: Jehovah’s Witnesses investing more than $50M on Woodbury project
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://libn.com/2024/03/04/jehovahs-witnesses-investing-more-than-50m-on-woodbury-project/.
long island business news.
march 4, 2024. the christian congregation of jehovah’s witnesses, which bought the former geico property in woodbury for $27 million in dec. 2022, plans to spend at least another $23 million to build an assembly hall and two support buildings on about half of the site.
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DesirousOfChange
From the link above:
"He was dismissed and discredited by the WT in February, 2024."
Discredited. WOW.
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New light on shunning?
by Mikejw inone theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.
he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .
what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.
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DesirousOfChange
I have only read a few posts on this issue. But my take is that if Watchtower relaxed it's shunning policy, the organization will lose one quarter of it's membership...namely all PIMOs with family members still in. ~ Vanderhoven
I guess that's as good of a speculative number as any for the number of PIMOs that there are today. I'm not sure it would affect everyone who is PIMO. If they wanted to be out of the social club, they could just fade or walk away and not suffer any judicial consequences that would result in being shunned. They're hanging in for the BBQs and going on cruises with other (not to zealous) JDubs.
But, regardless of the number that might bail on WT if they changed the policy, would WT really care? At this point, what are the PIMOs contributing? Aren't they just using up oxygen in the room? I think it very doubtful they are contributing much financially. And isn't that what matters to WT? So who cares where they go?