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  Why did God stop intervening in human affairs and deliverance of his people?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
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  the bible is full of stories of god intervening on behalf of those that had trust and faith in him.

  he rescues his people from various battles, trials and challenges from their enemies.

  the rescued individuals or communities are quick to offer praise and gratitude to god for his mighty acts on their behalf.. the story of the israelites’ exodus from egypt and the parting of the red sea is a prime example of god’s powerful deliverance in the bible.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Jehovah still intervenes in human affairs. He's just been more subtle.

  So subtle that no one knows it.

  When Jesus returns, the 'miracles' will start again.

  Don't hold your breath.

  
  

  
  
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  Warwick sits on $70 billion?

  by LaFrancia in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  70,000 real estate properties at an average value of $100,000 and perhaps we can say (no one knows for sure) that warwick sits on $70 billion in real estate value.

  in the video (deleted by jwborg but available on the avoid.jw website) of the 2018-19 coordinators' committee report (english) shown to all congregations at the mid-week meeting, we find several curious and interesting indications:.

  - at minute 6.52 seconds you see some data .

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  I think WTC is doing everything they can to make KHs a reliable revenue stream - but it is still not enough. More are fading and the only "new" ones coming in are born-ins. Eventually they leave also.

  My experience as Acct Servant was that the bulk of the contributions came from 10-15% of the members. Typically older retired publishers (mostly women) who had a nice retirement and who had accumulated a nice nest egg. I recall one elderly sister who every month would write a $100 check for each contribution box. Local. WWW. KH Building. . . . and any special fund that was added, ie, bringing missionaries home for conventions. She was a little ditzy and I suspect her non-witness family members either didn't know or were not very happy with her spending their inheritance like that. IDK that she was "rich", but certainly had lots of land in an area that was growing and building, and although was obviously "frugal" in her spending on herself (clothing, cars, etc) she was happy to shell it out to Jehover the WT Corporation.

  Other significant donations were from successful members who were successful in business. Likely a good IRS write-off and made them look good (to those in the know) and feel good about themselves. The same ones who always wined & dined the CO/DO/Bethel heavies.

  Those older ones were a major source of income for WT and they are dying off.

  
  
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  2025 Convention Theme leak

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to the next boe letter to be read at next week's midweek meetings in the united states,.

  the theme of the convention for next year is.

  pure worship.

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  DesirousOfChange

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  return to the past?
  Same theme as 53 years ago

  My first thought was that they won't even have to work up new talk outlines, just "cut 'n paste" like they do WT articles. But that's all wrong because the religion is nothing close to the religion that it was in 1951! EVEN THEIR BIBLE HAS CHANGED!
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  Pomo because of Proclaimers book, 1995 generation change and Daniel prophecy book

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  have some time thinking about my recent and less recent personal history because of the summer holiday.. the 90's crossed my mind.

  the years i became pimo.

  a friend, a room mate during the 1993 moscow international convention, went to university.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I have found that many jws are not so obedient to the WTS and hide it from others, even elders. They feel if they don't get caught by men, nothing will happen to them.

  That is certainly very common. I think it is why WT had to "allow" minor gambling (LOTS of JWs were buying Lotto tix) and going to the casino boats. Families who are "in the know" about how JCs work (elders and their wives/families) are often able to strategize their statements/confessions and avoid The Axe. Those that do not know how to play their game, go in unknowing and get kicked out while three assholes feel like bigshots and feel vindicated in ruining their lives.
  
  
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  Are you glad you got the Covid Vaccine? Did it help?

  by liam in

  1. social
  2. current

  i didn’t get the covid vaccine, but i admit, i was scared as shit i made the wrong decision because there was so much confusion out there.

  practically all my family and most of my friends took the vaccine because everyone was depending on those in charge to speak the truth.

  now a lot of them are sick, and they can't figure out why.

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  It is not meant to be total immunity, but to keep any case less deadly, or a fewer symptoms.

  That's not what they promised in the beginning. That was said only after the vaccines did NOT prevent the disease.
  
  
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  Are you glad you got the Covid Vaccine? Did it help?

  by liam in

  1. social
  2. current

  i didn’t get the covid vaccine, but i admit, i was scared as shit i made the wrong decision because there was so much confusion out there.

  practically all my family and most of my friends took the vaccine because everyone was depending on those in charge to speak the truth.

  now a lot of them are sick, and they can't figure out why.

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  My wife was hospitalized with covid after getting the first vaccination. I had to get both before I could enter the hospital to visit. I figured we were older and had existing health issues, so got the shot. I got covid anyway later. I do not think I would get them again. Hindsight is 20/20. Yes, we knew people who died. One couple in their 80s who lived in a nursing home both died the same day. Our family has several in the medical field. Those who worked in hospitals saw deaths every day. Months after covid hit, they had a big celebration at the hospital when the first person who had been intubated was able to be discharged. WHY? Because everyone who had to be intubated prior to this patient had died in the hospital.

  It was a serious health threat.

  The origin and the masks and all the bullshit promises for the vaccine -- well, that's another story. There a lot of people who should be arrested, jailed, or even executed, ie, all those who conspired to "create" this virus and release it on humanity, and all those who made millions on it.
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  Would you be able to survive a three day Assembly?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the last assembly i attended was over 10 years ago.

  the monotone speakers, boring talks, uncomfortable seats, long prayers and nodding off after the lunch break did me in.

  i survived the morning sessions, but the afternoon sessions were brutal.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Dagney, we must be about the same age. I was drug to that convention with my parents and grandparents although I only recall it from photos. I think that is the time frame when JW's were at their peak. Those events were impressive. I don't think any (OK almost none) JW would show up for convention in a hellishly hot venue like that today.

  Of course, one radio/TV personality supposedly said that JW's came to town with the 10 Commandments and a $10 bill and did not break either of them.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses came by today.

  by 3rdgen in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this morning i was in our front yard sitting down pulling weeds when i saw 3 people slowly walking on the sidewalk in my direction.

  2 of them were young, handsome, clean shaven, wearing nice crisp white shirts and perfectly tailored black slacks.

  they could have been mormons except.... there was a 60ish portly woman wearing a frumpy dress and ugly sandals.

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  DesirousOfChange

  The info is everywhere yet most dubs are too lazy or too afraid to look at the evidence.

  At this point, considering all the information that is available at the click of a keyboard, anyone who does not know TTATT is CHOOSING to not know.

  
  
  
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  MANY DIFFICULT YEARS AHEAD : PER CHRISTENSEN

  by raymond frantz in

  1. jw
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  https://youtu.be/jsmbtv4nafi?si=ezj0dnudyjls4knc.

  there was a time they preached the great tribulation was a short period of time between the fall of babylon and jesus coming back to save them, now they realize there are difficult years ahead of us, watch this latest morning worship video by per christensen on this subject .

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  DesirousOfChange

  Anyone who does not now know TTATT, does not want to "know" it -- or actually CHOOSES TO NOT KNOW.

  
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  Let's talk business ...

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am thinking that this could be an interesting topic.

  most of us never had a chance to go to college, many of us were involved in various service industries like cleaning and such, and we have had some limitations placed on us.

  so i thought it might be interested to see what has worked for people, what hasn't, what the progression has been, where people went wrong and where they got it right.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Very interesting reading.

  It's very encouraging that so many of you have done so well in life and are having a rewarding career.

  The greatest revenge is living a happy & successful life!