DesirousOfChange

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  EXPLOSIVE NEW LEAKED VIDEO OF C.O. CHASTISING ELDERS

  by raymond frantz in

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  https://youtu.be/np05twylal8?si=wjcdevvpxmlwxb2p.

  shame is an ancient form of control.

  shame is the mechanism used to control behaviour.

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  DesirousOfChange

  What is non abhorrent pornography?

  I believe that may require an extensive investigation to determine.

  Although I find myself very, very busy these days, I will do my utmost to schedule the time required to do an exhaustive investigation.
  
  
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  JWhub

  by Mikejw in

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  2. beliefs

  i’m an elder who is pima, i’m amazed how much info is available to all elders.

  you can see all private details of every member of the congregation.

  i wonder how these sisters feel about their private details being available to these creepy elders?.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Does anyone know how long they keep these forms for? I was dfed 15 years ago, would they still have paperwork pertaining to me on file?

  It's been over 20 years since I was an elder. Back then JC files for those "reproved" were retained fr 5 years after all privileges were restored. DF files were kept until 5 years after reinstatement (so maybe indefinitely) except anything pertaining to CSA were to be kept indefinitely.

  I don't think I ever knew of any Cong Secty that destroyed old files. There were in sealed envelopes in the locked file box in the "elders room".

  Perhaps lawsuits and privacy issues have motivated WT to see that things are handled per their rules. CYA is the foremost policy.
  
  
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  Be Obedient and Submissive to the Faithful Slave. Hmmm...Sounds kinky!!!

  by WingCommander in

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  seriously, how have i never caught on as to how kinky this weird cult language sounds?

  "be obedient and submissive to the faithful slave.

  "may i have another flogging, mr.

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  DesirousOfChange

  These boys came from innocent backgrounds and this is the first time they hear about rubbing your penis so that it feels good ect

  Really? Ain't no teenager that innocent anymore (if ever)!
  
  
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  JWhub

  by Mikejw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m an elder who is pima, i’m amazed how much info is available to all elders.

  you can see all private details of every member of the congregation.

  i wonder how these sisters feel about their private details being available to these creepy elders?.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Would making info available that had to do with a past JC not be violating that member's right of confidentiality? Remember-- WT argues in court that such JC's are subject to "Clergy-Penitent privilege". If one's "confidential file" is made available to anyone else (are you saying all elders?), would that not constitute a violation of the member's rights?

  Could this result in a new barrage of lawsuits?
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  Rumour 144,000 literal number teaching to be abandoned at Annual Meeting

  by slimboyfat in

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  say it ain’t so!

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  in one sense it’s a no brainer because the figures just don’t add up any more.. in another (negative) sense it’s a no brainer because it’s been fundamental to jws since year dot and might undermine the whole thing?

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  DesirousOfChange

  Someone is not taking their meds...............

  
  
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  Rumour 144,000 literal number teaching to be abandoned at Annual Meeting

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  say it ain’t so!

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  in one sense it’s a no brainer because the figures just don’t add up any more.. in another (negative) sense it’s a no brainer because it’s been fundamental to jws since year dot and might undermine the whole thing?

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  DesirousOfChange

  Hey, maybe I'll get disfellowshipped from this forum again!

  Again? Interesting comment.

  If it were a democracy, I'd guarantee it.

  
  
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  People who work free for the cult for many years

  by ThomasDam21 in

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  new to the forum.

  i have a question i did not get any feed back for on another site.

  what to these people who gave decades working for free in bethel when they are 60 plus years old.

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  DesirousOfChange

  They are constantly told that Jehovah will provide for them. "Look at the birds of the air; they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they?" (Matt 6:6)

  

  In most cases they move back home and rely on family, or the local congregation members (Note: NOT the Congregation) may assist them. That could be assisting them with finding some low paying job for a wealthy brother in business or more likely, assisting them to sign up for government assistance programs. In the US that is Medicaid, SNAP (food stamps), etc
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  Half hearted JWs compared to past generations

  by JohnR1975 in

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  is it just me or has there been a massive change in jws of late?.

  when i grew up in the cult they had a real sense of urgency and would do an hour minimum, these days it’s not even ten mins before coffee break.. same goes for everything else, it’s half hearted .

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  DesirousOfChange

  

  Yep.... no urgency in their message anymore.
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  Jehovah’s Witness deserved the right to refuse blood transfusion, Europe’s rights court rules

  by Bangalore in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  jehovah’s witness deserved the right to refuse blood transfusion, europe’s rights court rules'.

  https://www.courthousenews.com/jehovahs-witness-deserved-the-right-to-refuse-blood-transfusion-europes-rights-court-rules/.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Have to admit this Court made the right decision.

  

  Even if it kills you.
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  Rumour 144,000 literal number teaching to be abandoned at Annual Meeting

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  say it ain’t so!

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  in one sense it’s a no brainer because the figures just don’t add up any more.. in another (negative) sense it’s a no brainer because it’s been fundamental to jws since year dot and might undermine the whole thing?

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  DesirousOfChange

  It would be such a shit storm if they officially were to state it as symbolic, or even just say "we just don't know". If that were to happen, each Cong would have to start buying Memorial wine by the case.

  Much easier to just not speak of it anymore. (Kinda like the 7000 year long creative days.)